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NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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There is something dystopian, childish, naive, desperate, arrogant, sad and tragic about billionaires founding and funding longevity companies and projects. They think that they've got it all, but deep down there's still this gaping hole of meaninglessness. They can control evertything. Everything but death. If only they can find a way to live longer, maybe even a way to never die of natural causes, everything will b…

Is it not arrogant and selfish to tell people that they should die at 80-90 years old, if there could be a way to live longer?

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Better?

Arguably worse since old people have stubborn thought processes, especially politically. Usually the only way societies get change is once all the "boomers" die off. I think it sad but death is evolved for a real reason and we should not forget Chesterton's fence, even if it was not designed but rather converged on by almost all species except for trees.

Youthful longevity would obviously be a focus of any longevity initiative. Far future, we are unlikely to remain on any fragile biological substrate. Not sure why people keep on bringing up the idea of 90-year-olds living forever.

> death is evolved for a real reason

Not necessarily true. Evolution only cares that we fuck and pop out kids and they grow up and do the same. Once we've accomplished that goal, we are irrelevant from an evolutionary perspective.

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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There is something dystopian, childish, naive, desperate, arrogant, sad and tragic about billionaires founding and funding longevity companies and projects. They think that they've got it all, but deep down there's still this gaping hole of meaninglessness. They can control evertything. Everything but death. If only they can find a way to live longer, maybe even a way to never die of natural causes, everything will b…

This is just deathist brainrot. If we lived for 10k years "naturally", would you support killing people off after 70-80 years? Of course living longer would make things better.

Living that much longer through disease and natural degeneration elimination with the possibility of still dying from trauma might be quite horrible. Aversion to risk would logically skyrocket. Would skiing or even driving make sense?

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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There is something dystopian, childish, naive, desperate, arrogant, sad and tragic about billionaires founding and funding longevity companies and projects. They think that they've got it all, but deep down there's still this gaping hole of meaninglessness. They can control evertything. Everything but death. If only they can find a way to live longer, maybe even a way to never die of natural causes, everything will b…

There's very little funding of longevity research apparently. Probably because of people sharing your opinion that stopping aging is selfish/immoral. But this is not right, we've severely underestimated the biological dangers of our overpopulated-overconnected world. We find ourselves needing to fight a pandemic with similar methods as in 1917, because we ve not prepared for that. Biotech should be an imperative for…

> people sharing your opinion that stopping aging is selfish/immoral.

People share this opinion until they're on their deathbed. If offered a pill to be restored to youthful longevity in that moment, most people would give up everything and endure just about anything for a mere chance at it.

People are remarkably shortsighted and don't take the time to comprehend what the horror at the end of the tunnel will really feel like.

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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Frankly, this is what America has always been about - A combination of science, technology and capitalism. We need a lot more of these moonshots attempted at a massive scale. So what if it may not work out? People can not stop for the fear of failure. If founders have money and resources, by all mean I for one welcome these with open arms.

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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There is something dystopian, childish, naive, desperate, arrogant, sad and tragic about billionaires founding and funding longevity companies and projects. They think that they've got it all, but deep down there's still this gaping hole of meaninglessness. They can control evertything. Everything but death. If only they can find a way to live longer, maybe even a way to never die of natural causes, everything will b…

But how is it different from a company spending money to find cure for cancer which also ultimately extends the lives of the people? Am I missing something?

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arguably worse since old people have stubborn thought processes, especially politically. Usually the only way societies get change is once all the "boomers" die off. I think it sad but death is evolved for a real reason and we should not forget Chesterton's fence, even if it was not designed but rather converged on by almost all species except for trees.

Youthful longevity would obviously be a focus of any longevity initiative. Far future, we are unlikely to remain on any fragile biological substrate. Not sure why people keep on bringing up the idea of 90-year-olds living forever. > death is evolved for a real reason Not necessarily true. Evolution only cares that we fuck and pop out kids and they grow up and do the same. Once we've accomplished that goal, we are irr…

The psychological rot is what I'm talking about - not anything physical. Perhaps it has to do with aging brain anatomy but we don't know that it isn't due to the arduous nature of life itself. Life has a way of beating people down and making them bitter, far too often. Hell, you could be right and perhaps seeing everyone they know and love, sans their children, get sick and die, perhaps that is traumatizing though we have normalized it.

P.S. Don't know why you are being downvoted. Some people find fault in healthy discussion :-/

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Youthful longevity would obviously be a focus of any longevity initiative. Far future, we are unlikely to remain on any fragile biological substrate. Not sure why people keep on bringing up the idea of 90-year-olds living forever. > death is evolved for a real reason Not necessarily true. Evolution only cares that we fuck and pop out kids and they grow up and do the same. Once we've accomplished that goal, we are irr…

The psychological rot is what I'm talking about - not anything physical. Perhaps it has to do with aging brain anatomy but we don't know that it isn't due to the arduous nature of life itself. Life has a way of beating people down and making them bitter, far too often. Hell, you could be right and perhaps seeing everyone they know and love, sans their children, get sick and die, perhaps that is traumatizing though we…

In any longevity scenario we will necessarily have the time to iron these problems out :) No technology, no matter how good, has been perfect from the beginning.

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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SpaceX is titering on bankruptcy so I don't know if your really want to be the "SpaceX of living for ever". Also asking your employees to work over the holidays (SpaceX Company email) because of your management failures is not a good company culture.

Those “management failures” seem to be working pretty well then, as the US gov and private industry don’t seem to see the fuss. Where’s your competition?

That said, it is definitely foolish the comparison here.

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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There is something dystopian, childish, naive, desperate, arrogant, sad and tragic about billionaires founding and funding longevity companies and projects. They think that they've got it all, but deep down there's still this gaping hole of meaninglessness. They can control evertything. Everything but death. If only they can find a way to live longer, maybe even a way to never die of natural causes, everything will b…

Longevity is a worthwhile goal for striving for. It is horrific that beings with hopes, dreams, and loves are forced to die and lose everything they have ever had, doomed to an eternity of the black void of nonexistence. That should be a choice. I for one am thrilled that society is starting to view death as something we might be able to one day defeat, rather than the resigned acceptance that has reigned throughout…

That's a very egocentric view of the whole endeavor of life.

Part of the game is the renewal process of it.

If for once find it way more creepy to have centennial billionaires that are hoarding land and resources, because they have the illusion that things belong to them, when in reality it was never theirs to begin with.

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