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Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by iamdave » Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 1:54 AM UTC

georgieporgie wrote: post #9

brackin wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely this won't make those considered stupid any smarter. Why shouldn't someone less intelligent be allowed to read and interact with an intellectual conversation. It's not that easy to group people in such ways.

It's not about segregation, it's about content promotion. Why should content-promotion algorithms be intelligence agnostic?

it's about content promotion. Why should content-promotion algorithms be intelligence agnostic?

Because a "stupid" person might find the same thing interesting as a "dumb" person, hence the upvoting model. People who are inclined to agree are just as inclined to upvote these items, promoting them to a position where other people can consume said content.

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by pavel_lishin » Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 1:55 AM UTC

Sounds just like Google+.

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by pavel_lishin » Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 1:56 AM UTC

georgieporgie wrote: post #9

brackin wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely this won't make those considered stupid any smarter. Why shouldn't someone less intelligent be allowed to read and interact with an intellectual conversation. It's not that easy to group people in such ways.

It's not about segregation, it's about content promotion. Why should content-promotion algorithms be intelligence agnostic?

Why should they only use intelligence as their metric?

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by fookyong » Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 1:59 AM UTC

On Hubski, user follow one another, rather than communities, as they do on Reddit. Instead of voting a post up and down, you simply share it. That propagates it to your readers; the more people share it, the hotter that post becomes.

sounds like he has created Twitter.

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by arohner » Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 2:09 AM UTC

raganwald wrote: post #10

brackin wrote: post #5

The Sub-reddits are genius, building all these amazing sub communities. This is a big step back, their answer to the 'supposed' decline in Reddit is let's just make a clone, why? Because it'll have less users. Let's say it did hugely well, it'd be a vicious circle leading to everyone moving to another clone.

Sure it will be a vicious cycle. Same thing with fashions and popular hangouts. It's human nature, and somehow peoe make money in those businesses :-) http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com/2008/05/summon-monsters-ope...

Thanks for posting this, it's been a while since I've read it. One of the best things he's written. IMO, this is the real solution to the slashdot / digg / reddit /HN problem.

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by potatolicious » Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 2:12 AM UTC

Reddit is all about its community - you cannot defeat it with just features alone.

And if you've figured out how to reliably build a community from scratch on the internet, well, there's a few billion dollars in it for you...

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by tensor » Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 2:12 AM UTC

ScottWhigham wrote: post #8

I always think it's ridiculous when I hear "It's the new reddit" and then see what basically amounts to a Wordpress blog layout. Reddit, digg, HN were all partly successful because of their layout, not in spite of it. I don't want to scroll past the meta of every article today just to see what you have; I want a list of what's happening that is sorted/controlled by the community. And the less images, the better. I li…

This comment seems very out of context. Perhaps you've mistaken the wordpress blog for the site it talks about?

The site: http://www.hubski.com/

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by hendzen » Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 2:12 AM UTC

ScottWhigham wrote: post #8

I always think it's ridiculous when I hear "It's the new reddit" and then see what basically amounts to a Wordpress blog layout. Reddit, digg, HN were all partly successful because of their layout, not in spite of it. I don't want to scroll past the meta of every article today just to see what you have; I want a list of what's happening that is sorted/controlled by the community. And the less images, the better. I li…

I would say that HN is successful in spite of its layout.

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by Dramatize » Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 2:12 AM UTC

ScottWhigham wrote: post #8

I always think it's ridiculous when I hear "It's the new reddit" and then see what basically amounts to a Wordpress blog layout. Reddit, digg, HN were all partly successful because of their layout, not in spite of it. I don't want to scroll past the meta of every article today just to see what you have; I want a list of what's happening that is sorted/controlled by the community. And the less images, the better. I li…

I was playing around with a UI for a HN/Reddit style site: http://beta.dragthelake.org/index.php

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by dillona » Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 2:13 AM UTC

potatolicious wrote: post #16

Reddit is all about its community - you cannot defeat it with just features alone. And if you've figured out how to reliably build a community from scratch on the internet, well, there's a few billion dollars in it for you...

Reddit is most certainly having its own Eternal September.

I can not say I like that community much at all anymore