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Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

#11

Post by divbzero »

Bjartr wrote: post #5

I understand it's reasonable to be cynical about Windows, but is it really appropriate here[1] when the changes of note are support for dark mode and multiple undo steps? At least wait for someone to find an actual problem. [1] When I post this, the only other comments are complaints. The ones that are at least complaining about notepad are complaining that MS had the gall to change notepad without pointing to anythi…

Multiple undo steps is noteworthy. I have definitely lost text when I forgot Notepad’s undo limitation.

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

#12

Post by vq »

"Productivity, performance, and reliability are paramount in Notepad. Regardless of how you incorporate Notepad into your workflows, we will ensure that Notepad continues to excel in those areas."

Is this from Microsoft? Is this real?

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

#13

Post by lucb1e »

I was expecting a ribbon or other fluff (like write.exe / WordPad), perhaps even ads (two days ago I saw at a friend's that a Windows built-in game now has ads). Honestly I'm very impressed they kept the simple look. It's just a larger-than-necessary menu bar and some unobtrusive theming and that's it. The toggleable dark mode is also a welcome change for me.

I do assume we can open files larger than a few megabytes now and there were some more functionality issues that seemed very 90s, could it be that there was only one undo step or did they already fix that in a previous release? I truly haven't used Windows in, dare I say, too long.

Edit: yes I did remember the undo problem correctly and that's finally fixed: "adding support for multi-level undo".

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

#15

Post by calo_star »

MAGZine wrote: post #10

I was a little surprised to learn that my four-year-old processor (i7-7700) was locked out of running windows 11. It's certainly not processor speed issue, it's still plenty fast for games today. It's not TPM either, which it supports. The best I can tell, Microsoft drew a line and said "too bad," for everything before a certain generation. I really only play games on my computer--I have no idea when I'll upgrade the…

Maybe it has something to do with Meltdown/Spectre mitigations.

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

#16

Post by Causality1 »

Bjartr wrote: post #5

I understand it's reasonable to be cynical about Windows, but is it really appropriate here[1] when the changes of note are support for dark mode and multiple undo steps? At least wait for someone to find an actual problem. [1] When I post this, the only other comments are complaints. The ones that are at least complaining about notepad are complaining that MS had the gall to change notepad without pointing to anythi…

I like the feature additions but dislike that there's no visual division between the menu bar and the title bar you can click and drag to manipulate the window. Windows 10 and 11 often make me feel as if I have some disorder of the nervous system as I'm forever clicking just to the side of the interface element I want to use.

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

#17

Post by Lendal »

hvgk wrote: post #9
stnmtn wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about this updates fucks it up?

Gigantic menu bar for the sake of one icon. Aka “design language” Aka “bullshit”

This was my observation as well. I haven't used Notepad in so long, I had to open it for comparison. Yes, they've doubled the amount of wasted space, changing one menu item from text to a gear icon.

It's also possible that this is a joke. Nobody that reads dev blogs uses Notepad as part of their mission critical process.

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Post by moth-fuzz »

MAGZine wrote: post #10

I was a little surprised to learn that my four-year-old processor (i7-7700) was locked out of running windows 11. It's certainly not processor speed issue, it's still plenty fast for games today. It's not TPM either, which it supports. The best I can tell, Microsoft drew a line and said "too bad," for everything before a certain generation. I really only play games on my computer--I have no idea when I'll upgrade the…

You can still install windows 11 straight from an image and it’ll ignore the processor and TPM requirements - they’re considered ‘soft’ requirements even if Microsoft doesn’t say so outright. I currently have it running on my desktop with an i7-6700k and my laptop as well with an even older i7 and TPM 1.2.

You’re absolutely correct in that they ‘drew a line’. They have a specific set of guidelines[0,1] they want CPUs to meet going forward, and it’s more of a matter of ceremony and certification rather than anything concrete nor technical.

0. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/com...

1. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/de...

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

#19

Post by ng-user »

It's crazy to me that Windows 11 has already been released and yet they're still adding what should be core functionality to the OS as an after thought.

If they are so set on redesigning Notepad and/or all system apps to use the new design style, why would those not be prioritized and included in the original release from day 1?

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

#20

Post by iotku »

Bjartr wrote: post #5

I understand it's reasonable to be cynical about Windows, but is it really appropriate here[1] when the changes of note are support for dark mode and multiple undo steps? At least wait for someone to find an actual problem. [1] When I post this, the only other comments are complaints. The ones that are at least complaining about notepad are complaining that MS had the gall to change notepad without pointing to anythi…

I know there's a lot of different people with different priorities, but people (as a generalization) are complaining about things still being outdated and not supporting dark mode in Windows 11 while simultaneously (although probably a different set of people) are apparently appalled that Microsoft would dare update a legacy application.

Personally I think the best thing Windows 11 has going for it to stand out from more than just being a nicer coat of paint on Windows 10 is removing as much legacy things as possible and update to "modern" standards given they've already put a hard line in the sand regarding modern CPU compatibility.

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