Didn't know signing as "Jane Doe" was a thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictitious_defendants
EDIT: to clarify, in this case "Jane Doe" is the plaintiff.
Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]
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#12This seems kind of silly. Should radio equipment manufacturers be liable for the Rwandan genocide? I'm not fan of Facebook (I don't even have an account) but requiring them to fulfill a function that the Burmese government didn't do seems shortsighted.
Yeah but Facebook is eager to take on the moderator role. They would have been much smarter to, like a radio provider or telco say: "we are just the pipeline, we are happy to follow all court orders but we aren't moderating past that", but now that they have actively embraced these kind of moderator roles they've lost the ability to make that claim.
That’s a great point, and one can argue that there are lower hanging fruit with respect to this hill they’ve chose to die on. Lots of inconclusive stuff got moderated down about Covid (origins, vaccine discussions, masks, so on) by both YouTube and Facebook. It feels like that’s a way easier case to win initially than proving genocide.
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#13This reminds me of something I’ve been mulling over for a while.
Should it be illegal for a media outlet to publish the untested claims of a lawsuit?
I’ve seen this behavior all too often. “XYZ happened, person A did this, claims new suit”.
You can sue over just about anything, and make whatever absurd claims you want. People see these headlines and believe as if they have been settled in court when this is almost never the case at print time.
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#14Between the UN fact-finding mission saying Facebook played a “determining role” in the genocide, the Bosworth memo, and the shit ton of access we now have thanks to the whistleblower, how is this not a strong case?
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#15This seems kind of silly. Should radio equipment manufacturers be liable for the Rwandan genocide? I'm not fan of Facebook (I don't even have an account) but requiring them to fulfill a function that the Burmese government didn't do seems shortsighted.
What if the radio equipment had algorithms that spied on your communication and used that information to help you find people and groups that facilitated genocide?
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#16This seems kind of silly. Should radio equipment manufacturers be liable for the Rwandan genocide? I'm not fan of Facebook (I don't even have an account) but requiring them to fulfill a function that the Burmese government didn't do seems shortsighted.
Radio equipment manufacturers don't specifically amplify messages that incite outrage, and also don't perform mass psychological experiments on their users [1]. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/02/facebook-...
And there's a difference between something like a forum that moderates versus what Facebook's algorithm is doing -- one is reactive to its users (and generally reacting based on what other users believe is inappropriate conduct), while the algorithm is proactive in pushing content to users.
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#17The British, EU, and US can get away with extorting FB/MS/Apple every few years because the loss of those markets would be greater than the extortion they're asking for (in the form of regulations).
It's laughable that the small market Burmese think they can pull this garbage. Facebook doesn't need Myanmar and the Burmese government would best prepare for a second insurrection if they think their people would be okay with Facebook pulling out from Myanmar.
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#18This reminds me of something I’ve been mulling over for a while. Should it be illegal for a media outlet to publish the untested claims of a lawsuit? I’ve seen this behavior all too often. “XYZ happened, person A did this, claims new suit”. You can sue over just about anything, and make whatever absurd claims you want. People see these headlines and believe as if they have been settled in court when this is almost ne…
I think it's fine to report on the claims in a lawsuit once an initial hearing has taken place. If a judge reviews the claims and believes them to be reliable enough for the case to proceed, then it's enough to report as long as it's made clear that the claims are from a lawsuit that hasn't been fully tested in court.
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#19This reminds me of something I’ve been mulling over for a while. Should it be illegal for a media outlet to publish the untested claims of a lawsuit? I’ve seen this behavior all too often. “XYZ happened, person A did this, claims new suit”. You can sue over just about anything, and make whatever absurd claims you want. People see these headlines and believe as if they have been settled in court when this is almost ne…
I think news media outlets usually have to throw an "allegedly" in there somewhere. This is a direct link to the lawsuit though. The title was chosen by a user, presumably a private individual.
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#20Starting to wonder if the name became "Meta" so that the headlines wouldn't read "Class action suit filed against Facebook" or "Scandal involving Facebook".
How effective can such a thing be? Aren't they using the Meta keyword on all of their products now? As well as the fact it was likely all over the news, globally.