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Sony Finally Fully Unveils Its Android Tabs, The Sony S and P

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Re: Sony Finally Fully Unveils Its Android Tabs, The Sony S and P

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Post by cryptoz »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #8
cryptoz wrote: post #3

"It’s not about who makes them first, but who [spies on you the most].” I love Android and I'm so happy for its success. But I cannot recommend these tablets to anyone due to my boycott of Sony. Their lack of moral values and the way they treat their customers has led me to not just boycott but to actively campaign against them. Say no to Sony.

Can you cite some examples, aside from the somewhat recent chain of security flaws that leaked customer information all over the intertubes?

I was specifically referring to their installation of rootkits on consumer PCs through the Sony BMG CD channel. Also, their attitude about it. From Wikipedia:

> Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG's Global Digital Business President, told reporter Neda Ulaby, "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"

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Post by CamperBob »

cryptoz wrote: post #11
pavel_lishin wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you cite some examples, aside from the somewhat recent chain of security flaws that leaked customer information all over the intertubes?

I was specifically referring to their installation of rootkits on consumer PCs through the Sony BMG CD channel. Also, their attitude about it. From Wikipedia: > Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG's Global Digital Business President, told reporter Neda Ulaby, "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"

But remember, he was fired for that, and was lucky to dodge a lawsuit from his own employer.

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Post by pavel_lishin »

CamperBob wrote: post #13
cryptoz wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was specifically referring to their installation of rootkits on consumer PCs through the Sony BMG CD channel. Also, their attitude about it. From Wikipedia: > Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG's Global Digital Business President, told reporter Neda Ulaby, "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"

But remember, he was fired for that, and was lucky to dodge a lawsuit from his own employer.

Was he? I can't find any news story about it.

Re: Sony Finally Fully Unveils Its Android Tabs, The Sony S and P

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Post by mortenjorck »

cryptoz wrote: post #11
pavel_lishin wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you cite some examples, aside from the somewhat recent chain of security flaws that leaked customer information all over the intertubes?

I was specifically referring to their installation of rootkits on consumer PCs through the Sony BMG CD channel. Also, their attitude about it. From Wikipedia: > Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG's Global Digital Business President, told reporter Neda Ulaby, "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"

The rootkit debacle was six years ago, and was perpetrated by a business unit that is effectively siloed from the one that manufactures consumer electronics.

I'm not saying your apparently indefinite boycott is unjustified; what happened under the Sony name in 2005 happened on the same watch that everything else in all its myriad corporate structures happens. What I am saying is that corporately, Sony is a complex beast, and one business unit's missteps are not necessarily representative of another.

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Post by lallysingh »

JonLim wrote: post #2

They looks interesting - if they can be snappy and responsive and work well, I would give it a shot. My only reservation is that it would be proprietary Sony everything that it would work with, which means that it probably sucks when trying to use in conjunction with anything other than that. Yay for more competition!

To be fair, I can take an ancient 512mb memory stick and it still fits into most sony devices I have now. Sometimes proprietariness leads to consistency.

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Post by wardrox »

cryptoz wrote: post #3

"It’s not about who makes them first, but who [spies on you the most].” I love Android and I'm so happy for its success. But I cannot recommend these tablets to anyone due to my boycott of Sony. Their lack of moral values and the way they treat their customers has led me to not just boycott but to actively campaign against them. Say no to Sony.

Are there any alternatives? I can't think of any companies off hand who aren't morally bankrupt in at least one regard.

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Post by iacvlvs »

cryptoz wrote: post #3

"It’s not about who makes them first, but who [spies on you the most].” I love Android and I'm so happy for its success. But I cannot recommend these tablets to anyone due to my boycott of Sony. Their lack of moral values and the way they treat their customers has led me to not just boycott but to actively campaign against them. Say no to Sony.

It's so good to know I'm not the only one still boycotting them! I was actually starting to reconsider it when the GeoHot thing happened and renewed my resolve. In this case, I don't think we're missing out on anything: if their Android tablets are anything like their Android phones they're going to be locked down to the point of uselessness and crammed to the rafters with proprietary rubbish.
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