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Django 1.0 is finally here

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Re: Django 1.0 is finally here

#11

Post by maxklein »

That's it? That's the difference between Rails and Django - if it were Rails reaching 1.0, there would be a huge party and screencasts everywhere and a demo showing how to write windows 95 in 10 minutes.

Django just released and that's all.

On the one hand I'm happy because over hyped products tend to be constantly flooded by new users. On the other hand, if a project is too quiet, it tends to lose users to more sexy technologies, and sooner or later, nobody is using it.

I don't want it to turn out that I put my bets on the betamax of the the frameworks.

Re: Django 1.0 is finally here

#12

Post by fozy »

maxklein wrote: post #11

That's it? That's the difference between Rails and Django - if it were Rails reaching 1.0, there would be a huge party and screencasts everywhere and a demo showing how to write windows 95 in 10 minutes. Django just released and that's all. On the one hand I'm happy because over hyped products tend to be constantly flooded by new users. On the other hand, if a project is too quiet, it tends to lose users to more sexy…

I don't think Django == Betamax, but I do agree it certainly was a quiet release. Hopefully the improvements and the quality of the release will be sufficient to generate some buzz.

Re: Django 1.0 is finally here

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Post by adrianh »

maxklein wrote: post #11

That's it? That's the difference between Rails and Django - if it were Rails reaching 1.0, there would be a huge party and screencasts everywhere and a demo showing how to write windows 95 in 10 minutes. Django just released and that's all. On the one hand I'm happy because over hyped products tend to be constantly flooded by new users. On the other hand, if a project is too quiet, it tends to lose users to more sexy…

That's the way we like it.

Re: Django 1.0 is finally here

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Post by mdasen »

maxklein wrote: post #11

That's it? That's the difference between Rails and Django - if it were Rails reaching 1.0, there would be a huge party and screencasts everywhere and a demo showing how to write windows 95 in 10 minutes. Django just released and that's all. On the one hand I'm happy because over hyped products tend to be constantly flooded by new users. On the other hand, if a project is too quiet, it tends to lose users to more sexy…

Well, there can really only be "betamax" problems when you have a winner-take-all economy. Since these frameworks are just code that outputs (JS|HTML|JSON|etc), there isn't really a way that any framework could become a betamax.

That said, for myself, the Django 1.0 isn't that exciting. What will be exciting is the development from now on. I mean, I've been tracking SVN and so 1.0 doesn't offer me cool new things. It's also just a different community. DHH is great at getting the word out and getting the hype up there. Django is more subdued.

You can't go too wrong with either Rails or Django. Don't worry. Be happy. Be productive.

Re: Django 1.0 is finally here

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Post by jdunck »

maxklein wrote: post #11

That's it? That's the difference between Rails and Django - if it were Rails reaching 1.0, there would be a huge party and screencasts everywhere and a demo showing how to write windows 95 in 10 minutes. Django just released and that's all. On the one hand I'm happy because over hyped products tend to be constantly flooded by new users. On the other hand, if a project is too quiet, it tends to lose users to more sexy…

There's a conference and party this weekend.

Also, blackjack and hookers.

There are 10500 subscriptions to django-users.

Betamax?

Re: Django 1.0 is finally here

#16

Post by jdunck »

mdasen wrote: post #14
maxklein wrote: post #11

That's it? That's the difference between Rails and Django - if it were Rails reaching 1.0, there would be a huge party and screencasts everywhere and a demo showing how to write windows 95 in 10 minutes. Django just released and that's all. On the one hand I'm happy because over hyped products tend to be constantly flooded by new users. On the other hand, if a project is too quiet, it tends to lose users to more sexy…

Well, there can really only be "betamax" problems when you have a winner-take-all economy. Since these frameworks are just code that outputs (JS|HTML|JSON|etc), there isn't really a way that any framework could become a betamax. That said, for myself, the Django 1.0 isn't that exciting. What will be exciting is the development from now on. I mean, I've been tracking SVN and so 1.0 doesn't offer me cool new things. It…

Attention is zero-sum.

Re: Django 1.0 is finally here

#18

Post by rbanffy »

maxklein wrote: post #11

That's it? That's the difference between Rails and Django - if it were Rails reaching 1.0, there would be a huge party and screencasts everywhere and a demo showing how to write windows 95 in 10 minutes. Django just released and that's all. On the one hand I'm happy because over hyped products tend to be constantly flooded by new users. On the other hand, if a project is too quiet, it tends to lose users to more sexy…

"Django just released and that's all."

they have been releasing for a long time. The news here is the 1.0 version number.

Re: Django 1.0 is finally here

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Post by AndyKelley »

shabda wrote: post #6
zain wrote: post #2

And the blog post where you can congratulate the team: http://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2008/sep/03/1/

And if you want to say a different thank you, here are some wishlists. Add more that you know of. http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html?ie=UTF8&... http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html?ie=UTF8&... http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html?ie=UTF8&... http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html?ie=UTF8&...

Interesting how my wishlist grew as I looked at theirs.

Re: Django 1.0 is finally here

#20

Post by dabeeeenster »

litewulf wrote: post #17
dabeeeenster wrote: post #9

Great news. I really do think Django surpasses Rails in core areas...

...and Rails surpasses Django in other core areas... Not all problems are nails, hammer not tool for all circumstances, news at eleven.

Rails and Django are very, very similar in what they set out to accomplish, but they do so in different ways. TBH I don't really think you'd every come up against a project that was obviously suited to one framework or the other.
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