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Steve Simon announces WTA’s decision to suspend tournaments in China

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Re: Steve Simon announces WTA’s decision to suspend tournaments in China

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As a Chinese-American residing in the US, I really have to smile when white people think they can "stick it" to China. Westerners, in particular white people, are threatened by Asian faces gaining power in the Far East, and so they demonize my country and countrymen and make up ridiculous stories about how much of a scary Orwellian hellhole China is. And of course they indulge in their white savior narrative and try…

Ahh, a baby wumao hatchling coming out of the couqoon. Watch as it spreads it's delicate wings and commit rhetoric and logical fallacies. Notice how it argues a different topic, uses misdirection, threats and insults. A fine specimen indeed.

Re: Steve Simon announces WTA’s decision to suspend tournaments in China

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As a Chinese-American residing in the US, I really have to smile when white people think they can "stick it" to China. Westerners, in particular white people, are threatened by Asian faces gaining power in the Far East, and so they demonize my country and countrymen and make up ridiculous stories about how much of a scary Orwellian hellhole China is. And of course they indulge in their white savior narrative and try…

Before your comment is nuked, I'm genuinely curious: if you have so much animosity against (white) Westerners and consider China "my country" (as opposed to the US where your comment makes clear you merely reside even though you claim to be a Chinese-American), why aren't you living in China and contributing to the glorious revitalization of the country that is taking place?

It seems odd that you'd chose to live in a place where you're isolated from your countrymen and aren't ensconced in the strength of the not-scary, not-Orwellian, not-hellhole country that you clearly identify most with.

Re: Steve Simon announces WTA’s decision to suspend tournaments in China

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As a Chinese-American residing in the US, I really have to smile when white people think they can "stick it" to China. Westerners, in particular white people, are threatened by Asian faces gaining power in the Far East, and so they demonize my country and countrymen and make up ridiculous stories about how much of a scary Orwellian hellhole China is. And of course they indulge in their white savior narrative and try…

> do a rapid reunification Taiwan as soon as possible and risk the economic damage

Did you mean to say "hostile takeover of an independent nation"? China hasn't controlled Taiwan in recent history.

Re: Steve Simon announces WTA’s decision to suspend tournaments in China

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As a Chinese-American residing in the US, I really have to smile when white people think they can "stick it" to China. Westerners, in particular white people, are threatened by Asian faces gaining power in the Far East, and so they demonize my country and countrymen and make up ridiculous stories about how much of a scary Orwellian hellhole China is. And of course they indulge in their white savior narrative and try…

I’m not white and I don’t believe it’s right that a woman should be politically silenced for speaking out about sexual abuse she encountered. Perhaps not everything is about ‘sticking it’ to your homeland.

agreed. it's wild how fast a potential operative jumps on this thread and gets hostile about people being upset over human rights violations.

human rights are not supposed to be just a "westerner" thing, it's human rights not western rights.

no person should be treated as subhuman. all people deserve a chance at being free no matter what nation they live in.

and if a organization decides they don't want to support a country because of human rights violations, then good. i support that organization for being on the right side of history.

Re: Steve Simon announces WTA’s decision to suspend tournaments in China

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Hey now, no need to be racist/xenophobic about it.

The Chinese government is a terrible regime that commits many atrocities. But China has more than a billion people, most of whom do nothing morally wrong beside being complicit to the regime's crimes by inaction. And as we've seen time and again, that's just what regular people do and will do, as long as their lives aren't getting worse ( e.g. Nazi Germany). Most people don't want to risk their lives for noble causes.

Blacklisting any Chinese national and company will only sharpen an us vs them divide, which helps the CCP because they paint any criticism of them as criticism of China. Furthermore, most businesses owners on this boards are probably in the US, who has a less than stellar human rights record and supports many regimes with even worse ones. Why pick out China specifically and not Israel or Saudi Arabia? They're all different degrees of terrible. Yes, action against one is still better than no action against any one, but i wonder, why China and not the Saudis? Or Israel, the boycot movement against which is specifically disenfranchised in the US? If the only reason is that they're getting too rich and starting to give the US as a global power a run for their money, your priorities are weird. Anything else, you do you and boycott the one(s) you want, but don't forget the rest.

In any case, no need for outright racial hatred of a whole nation.

Re: Steve Simon announces WTA’s decision to suspend tournaments in China

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This takes some serious balls and I tip my hat to the organization! Let's see what China does to force them to reconsider

Maybe recognized that women are not objects to be used and abused by people with money and authority. This is sadly something you find everywhere in this world, but at least, in some countries, women can hope to get the justice to investigate fairly. Being a woman in this world is not easy.

Women also have advantages in some other regards. I think it overall evens out.

Re: Steve Simon announces WTA’s decision to suspend tournaments in China

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Hey now, no need to be racist/xenophobic about it. The Chinese government is a terrible regime that commits many atrocities. But China has more than a billion people, most of whom do nothing morally wrong beside being complicit to the regime's crimes by inaction. And as we've seen time and again, that's just what regular people do and will do, as long as their lives aren't getting worse ( e.g. Nazi Germany). Most peo…

This isn’t about racism or xenophobia. This about collectively applying pressure on China, and, more importantly, standing by your ideals. We don’t conduct business with corrupt organizations, and by definition any Chinese company is an organization that is tightly tied to one of worst, scariest regimes that the world ever saw.

And remember - it’s never “just business”, not unless you’re a completely corrupt psychopath.

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