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Why no Steam, Notch?

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Re: Why no Steam, Notch?

#11

This is how the battle for openness is won. Not by endless online argument, but by building stuff. Stuff that, by virtue of its openness and flexibility, is too awesome to be needlessly and arbitrarily constrained. Beats the shit out of dogma. Good on ya, Notch.

The battle for openness is won by building proprietary software?

He's been saying that eventually it'll be open-source, once it gets a 1.0 version? I don't know, maybe it's time to bug him some more about it...

Re: Why no Steam, Notch?

#12
post #4

I really admire how much Notch seems to understand opposing viewpoints that most people would simply make inflammatory posts about. His diplomacy here, as well as with Bethesda, has been stellar: Not "Steam is a DRM-ridden mess that I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole, bwa ha ha!", but instead, "I understand why they'd want to control their platform." Not "Bethesda are an Orwellian corporate giant trying to crush t…

http://www.minecraft.net/about.jsp > I'm not very happy with the draconian nature of (L)GPL

That you can point to that quote as the most inflammatory thing Notch has said just reinforces OP's point.

Re: Why no Steam, Notch?

#13
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The battle for openness is won by building proprietary software?

He's been saying that eventually it'll be open-source, once it gets a 1.0 version? I don't know, maybe it's time to bug him some more about it...

No he said it will be open source when he feels it's not making any more money. You can find this (or atleast use to be able to find it) on minecraft.net

Edit: Source

>Once sales start dying and a minimum time has passed, I will release the game source code as some kind of open source. http://www.minecraft.net/about.jsp

Re: Why no Steam, Notch?

#14
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The battle for openness is won by building proprietary software?

He's been saying that eventually it'll be open-source, once it gets a 1.0 version? I don't know, maybe it's time to bug him some more about it...

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Re: Why no Steam, Notch?

#15

This is how the battle for openness is won. Not by endless online argument, but by building stuff. Stuff that, by virtue of its openness and flexibility, is too awesome to be needlessly and arbitrarily constrained. Beats the shit out of dogma. Good on ya, Notch.

The battle for openness is won by building proprietary software?

There's more than one kind of openness.

Re: Why no Steam, Notch?

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.minecraft.net/about.jsp > I'm not very happy with the draconian nature of (L)GPL

That you can point to that quote as the most inflammatory thing Notch has said just reinforces OP's point.

Thanks for helpin' a brotha out!

Re: Why no Steam, Notch?

#17
post #4

I really admire how much Notch seems to understand opposing viewpoints that most people would simply make inflammatory posts about. His diplomacy here, as well as with Bethesda, has been stellar: Not "Steam is a DRM-ridden mess that I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole, bwa ha ha!", but instead, "I understand why they'd want to control their platform." Not "Bethesda are an Orwellian corporate giant trying to crush t…

http://www.minecraft.net/about.jsp > I'm not very happy with the draconian nature of (L)GPL

He's right that GPL is draconian and limits freedom. But I am not sure your point because you didn't state it. You have a drive by post where you post some cryptic excerpt that seems unrelated to the topic with no commentary. Are you a posting bot, or are you a person with a point? Speak clearly. Explain yourself.

If the intent is to be critical of notch, I can't see any fault in his saying he hopes to release source code eventually and that since the GPL is such an anti-freedom license (huh, actually my words not his, but my sincere interpretation and agreement with his 'draconian' term usage), he "might just possibly" release as public domain, which means completely unencumbered and free. That sounds pretty cool. He's not under any obligation to do so though, and I don't see that many other games sold on Steam are somehow better.

Or perhaps you meant to indicate that you think his true reason not to release on Steam is not what he said, but he is lying and the secret real reason is that he intends to release public domain, and for some reason Steam would not allow that after signing their draconian and freedom limiting contracts, that are as freedom limiting as the GPL.

Maybe. Don't know because your post was incoherent.

Re: Why no Steam, Notch?

#18
I really hope Notch comes up with something more interesting than capes for the Minecraft market. I could see something like a robust world generator being extremely interesting, but premium hats and capes has to be one of the stupidest concepts in the history of gaming.

I don't like DLC's either, but I guess I just don't like any games enough to care. What I'm trying to say is that I'd like minecraft to stay in it's current innocent state. Perhaps if it grows like World of Warcraft did it will make sense, but it's a tough sell for me now. The simplicity is what makes it so charming.

Re: Why no Steam, Notch?

#19
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.minecraft.net/about.jsp > I'm not very happy with the draconian nature of (L)GPL

He's right that GPL is draconian and limits freedom. But I am not sure your point because you didn't state it. You have a drive by post where you post some cryptic excerpt that seems unrelated to the topic with no commentary. Are you a posting bot, or are you a person with a point? Speak clearly. Explain yourself. If the intent is to be critical of notch, I can't see any fault in his saying he hopes to release source…

Saying the GPL is draconian and limits freedom is like saying the 13th amendment limits freedom since it takes away your right to own slaves.

Re: Why no Steam, Notch?

#20
post #4

I really admire how much Notch seems to understand opposing viewpoints that most people would simply make inflammatory posts about. His diplomacy here, as well as with Bethesda, has been stellar: Not "Steam is a DRM-ridden mess that I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole, bwa ha ha!", but instead, "I understand why they'd want to control their platform." Not "Bethesda are an Orwellian corporate giant trying to crush t…

http://www.minecraft.net/about.jsp > I'm not very happy with the draconian nature of (L)GPL

Not only is this out of context, but the (L)GPL is very draconian. Not that that's a bad thing, it is by design.
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