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Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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Is it (still) implemented in Java? (Not that JS electron is necessarily lighter ..)

It's based on the JVM (Kotlin) and parts of it with Rust.

Is the JVM portion still using Swing? And can you share any details about what you're using Rust for?

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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Meanwhile IntelliJ is rotting with months-old bugs that render entire features useless, with no fixes and no ETAs in sight. The only product that I pay money for that constantly, on almost every release, pains me with new bugs, a good portion of which are never fixed. I thought about using other Jetbrains products like DataGrip (and now this Fleet), but I'm not going to invest even more into a company that simply ref…

I was reporting a lot of bugs to them initially, but so many of them were ignored that I can’t force myself to do this anymore.

I’m still paying for IDEA Ultimate, but it's only because I’m waiting for a better IDE with a more fair subscription system (when I cancel the subscription that was at least 1 year long, I should have the LATEST version I’ve paid for, not the first one). I will try Feet, of course, but I have no high hopes nor trust for JB.

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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post #11
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's based on the JVM (Kotlin) and parts of it with Rust.

Is the JVM portion still using Swing? And can you share any details about what you're using Rust for?

We'll be publishing a blog post with more detailed information soon.

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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post #7

Meanwhile IntelliJ is rotting with months-old bugs that render entire features useless, with no fixes and no ETAs in sight. The only product that I pay money for that constantly, on almost every release, pains me with new bugs, a good portion of which are never fixed. I thought about using other Jetbrains products like DataGrip (and now this Fleet), but I'm not going to invest even more into a company that simply ref…

I was reporting a lot of bugs to them initially, but so many of them were ignored that I can’t force myself to do this anymore. I’m still paying for IDEA Ultimate, but it's only because I’m waiting for a better IDE with a more fair subscription system (when I cancel the subscription that was at least 1 year long, I should have the LATEST version I’ve paid for, not the first one). I will try Feet, of course, but I hav…

Are these on YouTrack? Under same username as here?

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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post #8
post #7

Meanwhile IntelliJ is rotting with months-old bugs that render entire features useless, with no fixes and no ETAs in sight. The only product that I pay money for that constantly, on almost every release, pains me with new bugs, a good portion of which are never fixed. I thought about using other Jetbrains products like DataGrip (and now this Fleet), but I'm not going to invest even more into a company that simply ref…

IntelliJ IDEA along with the platform is the largest team at JetBrains and we're constantly working on bugs and features. If you can please point me to the issues you're referring to in YouTrack, I can check the status.

Sorry for hijacking this question but I thought this might be a chance to push a bit the attention to some of the bugs I reported, as it would be nice to have them fixed.

https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issues?q=by:%20albertzeyer%20

I don't want to sound too negative here though. In general, I'm very happy with IntelliJ, and I think it's currently the best available IDE for many languages (I care mostly about Python and PyCharm currently).

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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post #7

Meanwhile IntelliJ is rotting with months-old bugs that render entire features useless, with no fixes and no ETAs in sight. The only product that I pay money for that constantly, on almost every release, pains me with new bugs, a good portion of which are never fixed. I thought about using other Jetbrains products like DataGrip (and now this Fleet), but I'm not going to invest even more into a company that simply ref…

IntelliJ IDEA along with the platform is the largest team at JetBrains and we're constantly working on bugs and features. If you can please point me to the issues you're referring to in YouTrack, I can check the status.

OTOH, just two of the bugs that annoyed me today:

https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-256708

  - Regression: Markdown preview vertical sync does not work anymore

  - Makes editing long documentation files a pain, I have to use an external markdown editor now

  - First reported 12 months ago
https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-282427

  - Regression: Git actions don't work anymore when looking at the file diff window

  - Breaks my reviewing workflow, I have to use an older version of IntelliJ (which of course has its own problems)

  - First reported 3 months ago
Missing / incomplete features is one thing (hello Scala 3 support), but leaving regressions unfixed for so long is breaking the fundamental trust that users have in your product – the ability to rely on the basic functionality that already exists.

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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post #11
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's based on the JVM (Kotlin) and parts of it with Rust.

Is the JVM portion still using Swing? And can you share any details about what you're using Rust for?

Briefly: no, it's a custom reactive UI framework similar to Jetpack Compose. Rust is used for native operations such as accessing file system, launching processes, etc

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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post #13
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the JVM portion still using Swing? And can you share any details about what you're using Rust for?

We'll be publishing a blog post with more detailed information soon.

Awesome, looking forward to it. I hope Clojure/Scala wind up getting supported in the future, I'd love to try it out :) Keep up the good work!

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IntelliJ IDEA along with the platform is the largest team at JetBrains and we're constantly working on bugs and features. If you can please point me to the issues you're referring to in YouTrack, I can check the status.

OTOH, just two of the bugs that annoyed me today: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-256708 - Regression: Markdown preview vertical sync does not work anymore - Makes editing long documentation files a pain, I have to use an external markdown editor now - First reported 12 months ago https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-282427 - Regression: Git actions don't work anymore when looking at the file diff wind…

Thanks. Will check.

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

#20
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IntelliJ IDEA along with the platform is the largest team at JetBrains and we're constantly working on bugs and features. If you can please point me to the issues you're referring to in YouTrack, I can check the status.

Sorry for hijacking this question but I thought this might be a chance to push a bit the attention to some of the bugs I reported, as it would be nice to have them fixed. https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issues?q=by:%20albertzeyer%20 I don't want to sound too negative here though. In general, I'm very happy with IntelliJ, and I think it's currently the best available IDE for many languages (I care mostly about Python a…

Thanks for the support Albert, and for the bug reports. I'll follow-up with the team.
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