Omicron: Israel bans all foreigners, uses 'counter-terrorism' phone-tracking • Hacker News Board

Re: Omicron: Israel bans all foreigners, uses 'counter-terrorism' phone-tracking

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Post by robbedpeter » Sun, Nov 28, 2021, 11:43 AM UTC

FDSGSG wrote: post #8

montblanc wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

mostly this. The "counter terrorism" is a bit of a click-bait. There's no NSA type surveillance with sophisticated machine learning algorithms going on (these are unneedded), its simple tools any police department in any modern country has and uses.

> There's no NSA type surveillance with sophisticated machine learning algorithms going on Hold up, do you know something that the rest of the world doesn't? E: My bad, didn't remember this particular story. Although it hardly describes "sophisticated" machine learning https://theintercept.com/document/2015/05/08/skynet-courier/

What do you think they use the nsa datacenter in Utah for? Real-time tracking of cell phone voice, text, and data, probably global. All the best cool deep learning advances seen in public are probably in play, a lot of awesomely powerful open source software has been released since Snowden. Who knows what's been snatched and classified for their private enjoyment.

Thank god for stringent oversight and constitutional protections, right?

Re: Omicron: Israel bans all foreigners, uses 'counter-terrorism' phone-tracking

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Post by thedream » Sun, Nov 28, 2021, 12:12 PM UTC

Just needs 2 weeks and the surrender of your human rights to stop the spread!

Keep dreaming.

Re: Omicron: Israel bans all foreigners, uses 'counter-terrorism' phone-tracking

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Post by pdoege » Sun, Nov 28, 2021, 9:42 PM UTC

montblanc wrote: post #4

plmpsu wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I can tell, they're collecting cellular data on all of us constantly and when someone tests positive, they match that cell to all those who were in its vacinity during the past x days. I.e., this is more of a 'flipping a switch' for a cell model (hoping that a switch exists...). Once you're cell is matched, you get an SMS stating the fact and that you should self quarantine (pending time or tests, not sure)…

mostly this. The "counter terrorism" is a bit of a click-bait. There's no NSA type surveillance with sophisticated machine learning algorithms going on (these are unneedded), its simple tools any police department in any modern country has and uses.

No.

Carriers routinely back haul GPS data and angle data to geo locate users. At the time this information was batched nightly against transaction data provided by credit card (and other) partners in order to build customer profiles that can be marketed to advertisers.

Carriers in the USA provide this data to law enforcement for fees. This is a profit center at the carriers that I've worked for.

Some countries limit the commercial exploitation of this data, some require judicial involvement. I don't know of any country that does not avail themselves to this data.