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To Breed or Not to Breed?

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Re: To Breed or Not to Breed?

#12

I've heard this kind of commentary a lot, but I still believe it's much more of a case of "people not wanting to have kids and then giving climate change as the reason" than climate change actually being the deciding factor in not having kids. I think in most cases it's more akin to virtue signaling. The modern world, especially in the US, is quite unfriendly to having kids. Both parents have lots of other opportunit…

I feel like this may be mostly signaling, because the logical conclusion from the argument that more people means more climate change would be to either have your existence reduce climate change (which most people don't do), or to remove yourself from the equation.

Or maybe the argument is about the relative impact, and not having kids allows you to take the plane and still feel good about your actions because your total carbon impact is less than other people? I'm honestly not sure how the reasoning works.

Re: To Breed or Not to Breed?

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My reason for not having kids is simply the golden rule. Do unto potential others as I would have had my parents do unto me. Now, you might say that I can't know whether my potential kids would have been annoying optimists who could say that they love life, without sarcasm. To which I say, they would have my genes, and me for a father, and in my view that's enough to tip the scales.

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Re: To Breed or Not to Breed?

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Only very rich and very poor people in this world can afford to have kids.

When people cite money as a reason for not having children, they just usually just don't want children, but don't want to admit it.

The fact is there has never been a better time in human history to raise children. People talk about climate change, but back in the 50's it wasn't any better -- we were in the midst of a nuclear standoff that could have gone apocalyptic at any second. Before that, there was a world war, and another one before that, and so on.

In prior centuries anywhere from one quarter to one half of all kids born wouldn't make it to the first birthday.

Raising kids is hard, even now, but it's still easier than it's ever been.

People are free to have children or not have children, but let's be honest about why.

Re: To Breed or Not to Breed?

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I personally don’t like to have kids because the thought of responsibilities that comes with having kids scares the hell out of me

I already have enough responsibilities in my life, with my work etc and I don’t want to worry further by having kids

Even before having kids you have to take care of your pregnant wife, after delivering you have to take care of the kids, when they are old you have to worry about their education marriage and so on

It’s just too much. I don’t have any kids at the moment but the thought just makes me feel like I’m better off getting a divorce

Re: To Breed or Not to Breed?

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A whole article about people grappling with whether to make little copies of themselves when there are tons of kids that need adopted. The whole idea of having a kid just seems like a weird selfish ego trip. I know there’s underlying primal instincts at play - years of evolution driving you to breed, but we have the brains to take a step back and say is this the best choice I can make if I’d like to love and raise a human? Could I provide a better life for an already existing human? Or am I just on some ego trip to make a little replica of myself.

Re: To Breed or Not to Breed?

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A whole article about people grappling with whether to make little copies of themselves when there are tons of kids that need adopted. The whole idea of having a kid just seems like a weird selfish ego trip. I know there’s underlying primal instincts at play - years of evolution driving you to breed, but we have the brains to take a step back and say is this the best choice I can make if I’d like to love and raise a…

it's not ego. It's the drive of your genes to get into the future. Helping someone else's genes (that have some overlap with yours) is also adaptive, but not as much as people more closely related to you.
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