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Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by csunbird »

Xunxi wrote: post #7
akmarinov wrote: post #3

The EV6 has a lot of things equivalent Teslas don’t offer - cooled seats, 360 view cameras, Apple Carplay/Android Auto and it offers similar performance.

The world is such an odd and funny place now. My 2007 Toyota Avalon Touring drives pretty well with none of those 'trinkets'. The utilitarian value of a car seems to be an outlier to a lot of people these days. I wonder if we'll be able to get back to the place where products we manufacture will span decades and commands good value. Electric cars in my opinion should have fewer points of failure but here we are, hank…

Exactly, I want my Golf, but electric. 150-200hp, Carplay and Android Auto is all I need.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by somehnacct3757 »

alfor wrote: post #6

It would be very surprising that this represent real world experience. Tesla supercharger are everywhere and work well across the board, that is not the same experience with most fast DC charger. I think the the real world experience is the inverse of what the article suggest. Kia and Hyundai will make good competition on the low end

I've driven across the US a bunch with the goal of getting it over with as soon as possible, and I have no idea how you would do it in a way that doesn't constitute real world experience. It's mostly driving in a straight line on open road for hours upon hours. There's little room for divergent experiences.

Also the Guinness record they beat was Tesla's old record so even if the test wasn't an accurate representation of real life, Tesla still underperformed Kia in those conditions.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by jtbayly »

csunbird wrote: post #11
Xunxi wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world is such an odd and funny place now. My 2007 Toyota Avalon Touring drives pretty well with none of those 'trinkets'. The utilitarian value of a car seems to be an outlier to a lot of people these days. I wonder if we'll be able to get back to the place where products we manufacture will span decades and commands good value. Electric cars in my opinion should have fewer points of failure but here we are, hank…

Exactly, I want my Golf, but electric. 150-200hp, Carplay and Android Auto is all I need.

The ash tray and the paddle game. That's all I need!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZTdqh-a0tU

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by bmitc »

alfor wrote: post #6

It would be very surprising that this represent real world experience. Tesla supercharger are everywhere and work well across the board, that is not the same experience with most fast DC charger. I think the the real world experience is the inverse of what the article suggest. Kia and Hyundai will make good competition on the low end

> Kia and Hyundai will make good competition on the low end

The low end in price or quality?

Because it’s price, yes, and quality, no. Hyundai and Kia make some of the most quality cars available and have extensive warranties, both far better than Tesla.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by andy0x2a »

I think the real winner here is consumers. As the more competition in the space the better.

The article doesn't have a lot of details, but it would be interesting to know how long ago the Tesla set that record, as they continuously improve on their vehicles.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by lordnacho »

Xunxi wrote: post #7
akmarinov wrote: post #3

The EV6 has a lot of things equivalent Teslas don’t offer - cooled seats, 360 view cameras, Apple Carplay/Android Auto and it offers similar performance.

The world is such an odd and funny place now. My 2007 Toyota Avalon Touring drives pretty well with none of those 'trinkets'. The utilitarian value of a car seems to be an outlier to a lot of people these days. I wonder if we'll be able to get back to the place where products we manufacture will span decades and commands good value. Electric cars in my opinion should have fewer points of failure but here we are, hank…

Have to say you're right, apart from the 360 cam. It allows me to park confidently in a way that just can't be done without it. Also if you have kids is good to know they aren't going to be squashed.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by bmitc »

Xunxi wrote: post #7
akmarinov wrote: post #3

The EV6 has a lot of things equivalent Teslas don’t offer - cooled seats, 360 view cameras, Apple Carplay/Android Auto and it offers similar performance.

The world is such an odd and funny place now. My 2007 Toyota Avalon Touring drives pretty well with none of those 'trinkets'. The utilitarian value of a car seems to be an outlier to a lot of people these days. I wonder if we'll be able to get back to the place where products we manufacture will span decades and commands good value. Electric cars in my opinion should have fewer points of failure but here we are, hank…

Of course it drives well without those conveniences because they don’t have anything to do with how it drives. They are niceties to have though because they increase comfort and usability.

For one, cooled seats is almost a must if you want to be comfortable in certain climates. Even in cooler climates, I typically run hot, and having my back cooled is a major benefit to my comfort and reducing fatigue on longer trips and even shorter trips.

Also, a Tesla and Kia EV6 cost a bit more than your 2007 Toyota.

My 2015 Kia has all these niceties and is still basically brand new and still has warranties in the drivetrain. It will easily last over a decade. For the Tesla, I get it, because they add stuff that does indeed break all the time. Kia is a different story.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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alfor wrote: post #6

It would be very surprising that this represent real world experience. Tesla supercharger are everywhere and work well across the board, that is not the same experience with most fast DC charger. I think the the real world experience is the inverse of what the article suggest. Kia and Hyundai will make good competition on the low end

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