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Re: Ask HN: Best cars without too much digitalization?

#11

Good question. A follow-up: What's the best low(er)-digitalization EV (ideally BEV, but alternatively PHEV)? Something with more tactile/analog UI and a minimum of "entertainment" accessories?

PHEV means "Plug-in-hybrid Electric Vehicle" if anyone else was similarly confused.

Re: Ask HN: Best cars without too much digitalization?

#12

Good question. A follow-up: What's the best low(er)-digitalization EV (ideally BEV, but alternatively PHEV)? Something with more tactile/analog UI and a minimum of "entertainment" accessories?

My 2017 Chevy Bolt still has some knobs and dials for things. There's also a big touchscreen with a bunch of A/C system controls on it, which is annoying. They're also persistent in that space on the screen, which makes me wonder why even bother having it be on the screen...

Re: Ask HN: Best cars without too much digitalization?

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Between privacy risks and road safety, I made my choice very easily. I can understand the nostalgia of old cars with very little electronics, a carburator, a starter with a battery, a mechanical dashboard,... But on a daily basis they are dangerous, smelly, expensive, and not that reliable.

Re: Ask HN: Best cars without too much digitalization?

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They don't sell them in the US anymore, but I drive a 2019 Honda Fit and it's great. Very versatile (holds four adults, 8ft lumber, 36" doors, etc). The base trim is very tech-lite: bluetooth radio but nothing fancier than that, physically controlled hvac and chair controls, traditional key, basic LTMS (no dedicated chips in the tires, just a calculation based on different angular velocity across the wheels), etc. It's about as tech-lite as a modern car can be.

If you want a new car, instead of a used one, I'd try that same pattern: low end, low trim. Honda almost certainly sells a Civic without too many digital gimmicks, other automakers probably have the same.

It's a dying breed though, complicated "driver assist" systems are becoming standard or even mandated :(.

Re: Ask HN: Best cars without too much digitalization?

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Base model sporty cars I think would be a great fit here if you're looking for new. The manufacturer understands that those looking for performance typically shy away from expensive gadgets. For example my 2018 brand new ford focus st had a 4" display for the backup cam and that was literally it. Manual transmission, full suite of buttons for controls etc etc

Base model mustang ecoboost is similar, you have to pay more to get the larger infotainment option but otherwise everything is manual including the hvac: https://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/models/ecoboost-fastback/ I assume the same would be true for the Camaro and Challenger

I would stay away from anything luxury. Family Haulers and Base model trucks are typically low-tech as well.

Re: Ask HN: Best cars without too much digitalization?

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> For those of us who are "old-school" and prefer their cars without fancy digital gimmicks, which cars would you recommend? Old cars. The problem is the lack of modern safety features which really makes me do a double take before considering them. I wish cannibalizing a new car and ripping out all of the useless electronics was common enough for there to be tutorials for some brands

That's certainly true, but I do feel like there's a sweet spot in the 2005-2010 area where most "critical" safety features (improved airbags, traction control, ABS brakes) are almost certainly present, but none of the modern safety features that fall more into the "augmented sensory" category (merge/blindspot detection, early braking), which I'm happy to compromise on. I drive a 2007 SUV which does everything I need…

Panther platform, extremely safe still is a very solid choice. Though most people don't particularly enjoy driving land yachts - a grand marquee is a fantastic choice.

Late 90's saab 9000's have TCS, ABS, Dual Air Bag, so your standard set of 2000's features, and are also very safe.

Unfortunately there seems to be a lack of good crash test data publically on older (older than 2004) cars.

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