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Re: Watching Age-Restricted Videos

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is creating a google account more arduous than before? I've created dozens of them (including for my kids, where I had to be less than truthful about their age), and I have never had to provide an — OMFG I HAD NOT EXPANDED THE "If you're in the EU..." LINK! :exploding_outraged_and_bewildered_head: OK, you are right, this is governance done wrong.

Isn't it technically against the terms of service to have multiple accounts? In which case, sure it might work for now, but at any point Google can decide to just lock you out of all of them.

https://policies.google.com/terms?hl=en-US

I don't see anything regarding multiple accounts.

Re: Watching Age-Restricted Videos

#12

Basically the EU is forcing me to create a Google account. For privacy reasons I don't use one to watch videos and I am certainly not providing an ID. So for European users non-compliant video platforms are preferable for any controversial content (Any platform will err on the side of caution when flagging content, as are users). This is governance done wrong. Severely wrong. Your 12 year olds will find a way to cont…

> Basically the EU is forcing me to create a Google account.

When I see the age gate asking me to log in, I close the tab. How will the EU stop me from doing that?

Re: Watching Age-Restricted Videos

#13
post #3

Basically the EU is forcing me to create a Google account. For privacy reasons I don't use one to watch videos and I am certainly not providing an ID. So for European users non-compliant video platforms are preferable for any controversial content (Any platform will err on the side of caution when flagging content, as are users). This is governance done wrong. Severely wrong. Your 12 year olds will find a way to cont…

Is creating a google account more arduous than before? I've created dozens of them (including for my kids, where I had to be less than truthful about their age), and I have never had to provide an — OMFG I HAD NOT EXPANDED THE "If you're in the EU..." LINK! :exploding_outraged_and_bewildered_head: OK, you are right, this is governance done wrong.

>Is creating a google account more arduous than before?

Not sure about in the EU, but here in the US I cannot create a google account without providing a telephone number "for security."

That's certainly different (not more arduous, but more privacy invading) from when I created other Google accounts some years back.

Re: Watching Age-Restricted Videos

#14
post #6

Basically the EU is forcing me to create a Google account. For privacy reasons I don't use one to watch videos and I am certainly not providing an ID. So for European users non-compliant video platforms are preferable for any controversial content (Any platform will err on the side of caution when flagging content, as are users). This is governance done wrong. Severely wrong. Your 12 year olds will find a way to cont…

Youtube does not age restrict many videos, it's seriously hard finding one that's neither gore nor porn and still age restricted.

>Youtube does not age restrict many videos, it's seriously hard finding one that's neither gore nor porn and still age restricted.

I was going to post a link to a song based on the "All your base are belong to us" meme on another site, but it was, for some unknown reason, age-restricted.

Re: Watching Age-Restricted Videos

#15
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is creating a google account more arduous than before? I've created dozens of them (including for my kids, where I had to be less than truthful about their age), and I have never had to provide an — OMFG I HAD NOT EXPANDED THE "If you're in the EU..." LINK! :exploding_outraged_and_bewildered_head: OK, you are right, this is governance done wrong.

Isn't it technically against the terms of service to have multiple accounts? In which case, sure it might work for now, but at any point Google can decide to just lock you out of all of them.

Even if not, creating more accounts increases your exposure to Google's faulty moderation infrastructure, multiplying the probability that all of your accounts get banned. Probably nonlinearly, since more accounts under same address makes you look more like a bot.

Re: Watching Age-Restricted Videos

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post #6

Basically the EU is forcing me to create a Google account. For privacy reasons I don't use one to watch videos and I am certainly not providing an ID. So for European users non-compliant video platforms are preferable for any controversial content (Any platform will err on the side of caution when flagging content, as are users). This is governance done wrong. Severely wrong. Your 12 year olds will find a way to cont…

Youtube does not age restrict many videos, it's seriously hard finding one that's neither gore nor porn and still age restricted.

Random videos about unionization and US foreign policy have found themselves age restricted. I won't dig them all up, but here's one which was made age restricted without appeal. Does it seem like 18+ content to you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lzlUucGTco

Re: Watching Age-Restricted Videos

#17
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is creating a google account more arduous than before? I've created dozens of them (including for my kids, where I had to be less than truthful about their age), and I have never had to provide an — OMFG I HAD NOT EXPANDED THE "If you're in the EU..." LINK! :exploding_outraged_and_bewildered_head: OK, you are right, this is governance done wrong.

I also like to not create an account because I enjoy non-profiled search. I dislike getting served the same mush over and over. But that is just a preference. But yeah, the real problem is that we got age filter no. 4523. There are alternative ways, but this should work for anyone currently affected: https://githubmemory.com/repo/zerodytrash/Simple-YouTube-Age... I think this implementation of the EU AVMSD forces use…

> I also like to not create an account because I enjoy non-profiled search. I dislike getting served the same mush over and over.

You can disable Google's activity history, which includes YouTube videos watched. That should prevent personalised recommendations: https://myaccount.google.com/data-and-privacy

I disabled everything and can confirm that I only get garbage recommendations about things I've never watched or searched for.

Re: Watching Age-Restricted Videos

#18
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is creating a google account more arduous than before? I've created dozens of them (including for my kids, where I had to be less than truthful about their age), and I have never had to provide an — OMFG I HAD NOT EXPANDED THE "If you're in the EU..." LINK! :exploding_outraged_and_bewildered_head: OK, you are right, this is governance done wrong.

Isn't it technically against the terms of service to have multiple accounts? In which case, sure it might work for now, but at any point Google can decide to just lock you out of all of them.

Isn't it technically against?

Who cares if it is

Re: Watching Age-Restricted Videos

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Basically the EU is forcing me to create a Google account. For privacy reasons I don't use one to watch videos and I am certainly not providing an ID. So for European users non-compliant video platforms are preferable for any controversial content (Any platform will err on the side of caution when flagging content, as are users). This is governance done wrong. Severely wrong. Your 12 year olds will find a way to cont…

> Basically the EU is forcing me to create a Google account. When I see the age gate asking me to log in, I close the tab. How will the EU stop me from doing that?

Because you are required to watch the free content

Re: Watching Age-Restricted Videos

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post #3

Basically the EU is forcing me to create a Google account. For privacy reasons I don't use one to watch videos and I am certainly not providing an ID. So for European users non-compliant video platforms are preferable for any controversial content (Any platform will err on the side of caution when flagging content, as are users). This is governance done wrong. Severely wrong. Your 12 year olds will find a way to cont…

Is creating a google account more arduous than before? I've created dozens of them (including for my kids, where I had to be less than truthful about their age), and I have never had to provide an — OMFG I HAD NOT EXPANDED THE "If you're in the EU..." LINK! :exploding_outraged_and_bewildered_head: OK, you are right, this is governance done wrong.

The sites you use every day behave differently in different parts of the world.
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