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Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by tailspin2019 »

tyingq wrote: post #4

I know bikeshedding about names is discouraged, but in the case of signatures, isn't there a desire to evoke a "trust" feeling? It's hard to tie "cheap" to "trust". Some other synonym like "eco" might project trust better.

In this case I think the bikeshedding is warranted.

I agree, the name seems antithetical to the concept that the brand really needs to get across, of a solid, trustworthy organisation serving as a proxy for obtaining legally valid signatures.

There’s nothing wrong with leading with the marketing message that this is a cheaper solution than the competition but the brand of the service still needs to evoke trust.

Luckily it looks like they have a bit of time prior to launch to consider whether this is something they may want to change.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by whatever1 »

Docusign exists because the mobile os makers decided that the file system must be hidden from the user. In my Mac/pc it would take 30” to open a pdf attachment, sign it and send back the copy.

On my phone it’s painful to do the same task.

So we did it to ourselves. Don’t complain now, pay up.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by detaro »

dahfizz wrote: post #10
steeps wrote: post #6

What benefits do products such as DocuSign or cheapesignature have over digital signatures provided by open source libraries such as NaCl [1]? [1] https://nacl.cr.yp.to/

I'm pretty sure NaCl does cryptographic signatures. Docusign is a way for a human to "sign" a document with their computer - the legal equivalent to writing your name on a physical contract.

About that: highly depends. E.g. here in Germany, a properly done cryptographic signature is equivalent to an ink signature on a paper contract. Docusign is not. (Some delivery startup recently found out the hard way, when they discovered that parts of their contracts with workers were invalid due to that, and they thus had given them permanent contracts where they had intended them to be temporary)

Sadly the digital signatures are uncommon, because well, its a digitalisation effort in Germany, of course nobody did anything competent about actually implementing it. (e.g. a while after creating those laws, ID cards were changed to be smart cards too. And instead of just giving everyone a usable cert on one of those that's a paid extra)

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by davzie »

whatever1 wrote: post #14

Docusign exists because the mobile os makers decided that the file system must be hidden from the user. In my Mac/pc it would take 30” to open a pdf attachment, sign it and send back the copy. On my phone it’s painful to do the same task. So we did it to ourselves. Don’t complain now, pay up.

My experience on mobile is:

Open PDF Attachment > Trigger “Markup” > Sign > Save > Send Back

I’m on iOS. It’s done quite nicely to be honest.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by mig39 »

tyingq wrote: post #4

I know bikeshedding about names is discouraged, but in the case of signatures, isn't there a desire to evoke a "trust" feeling? It's hard to tie "cheap" to "trust". Some other synonym like "eco" might project trust better.

Yeah, go for something like "quality signature" or something along those lines.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by [deleted] »

mindslight wrote: post #8
rgbrgb wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the same question about what makes up the cost structure. How much does it cost docusign/hellosign etc to be the "notary"? FWIW the other signature providers have an enterprise sales process which is very negotiable. Pretty sure you can hit this price point at scale, but I hate doing enterprise sales negotiations. Will signature APIs be free in 10 years? [0] [0]: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/14609332654608…

Electronic signatures are free right now. The heavyweight rigmaroles are just security blankets for lawyers. /mindslight/ mindslight (ref: https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/sigexamp... )

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Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by OJFord »

whatever1 wrote: post #14

Docusign exists because the mobile os makers decided that the file system must be hidden from the user. In my Mac/pc it would take 30” to open a pdf attachment, sign it and send back the copy. On my phone it’s painful to do the same task. So we did it to ourselves. Don’t complain now, pay up.

On my phone it's painful can do anything so I'm using my desktop anyway. Someone that uses DocuSign is still going to make me 'DocuSign it'.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by mig39 »

whatever1 wrote: post #14

Docusign exists because the mobile os makers decided that the file system must be hidden from the user. In my Mac/pc it would take 30” to open a pdf attachment, sign it and send back the copy. On my phone it’s painful to do the same task. So we did it to ourselves. Don’t complain now, pay up.

That's really easy to do on iOS these days. Maybe the last version or two. You can "markup" PDFs and include signatures, etc.
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