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There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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> But let’s clear up something right away: Trader Joe’s says it has nothing to do with this.

> “This isn’t a TJ’s thing,” said Tara Miller, a Trader Joe’s spokesperson. “It’s being implemented by the landlord

I feel like the headline is misleading and shouldn't mention Trader Joe's if it isn't Trader Joe's direct fault.

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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post #7

Just say you don't have a smartphone. I got rid of mine and was worried I will have issues at places that do this sort of stuff. Turns out usually things suddenly become possible.

It is even weirder if you carry cash and leave your payment cards at home. This is a fun one, too.

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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Oh, great timing. Just ended a conversation with some friends who had bought a dishwasher. The display for these new machines had been removed, so the only way to tell when the machine was really finished was to... Guess what? Download an app! I suppose I don't need to tell you all the permissions it asked for...

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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The worst offender I've seen is Xfinity/Comcast. Recently cancelled service, never got a notice and multiple incorrect bills after canceling. Anytime I would talk you customer service, they would always say... "If you want to see your correct bill, then you have to download the app." I continually would have to tell them that I'm not downloading their damn app and that they are big enough that they can have the corre…

And Trump and the Republicans decided to give large ISPs a massive corporate tax break just the prior term, as well as remove a lot of pro consumer regulation re: the FCC, in that case. What's the point of the political commentary?

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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Oh, great timing. Just ended a conversation with some friends who had bought a dishwasher. The display for these new machines had been removed, so the only way to tell when the machine was really finished was to... Guess what? Download an app! I suppose I don't need to tell you all the permissions it asked for...

Someone can make an absolute killing by creating an entire brand of “dumb” appliances that Just Work. Make them sensible quality, modern, entirely offline.

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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I hate tech like this. It ostensibly offers some minor convenience for the end-user, but it's really just a big data grab for whatever company implemented it.

A few years ago, I went to a local Shake Shack and found they replaced their cashiers with kiosks. But placing an order requires me to give them my phone number, supposedly so they can text me when my order was ready. This should have been a very simple transaction: I give them money, and they give me burger. That's it. No need to get tech BS involved in things.

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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> But let’s clear up something right away: Trader Joe’s says it has nothing to do with this. > “This isn’t a TJ’s thing,” said Tara Miller, a Trader Joe’s spokesperson. “It’s being implemented by the landlord I feel like the headline is misleading and shouldn't mention Trader Joe's if it isn't Trader Joe's direct fault.

Still TJ decided it's fine to continue running their store with this crap being set up Or they might have been in the dark until people started complaining.

Anyhow this totally involves TJ and they will need to do something about it, as more customers will get pissed.

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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The worst offender I've seen is Xfinity/Comcast. Recently cancelled service, never got a notice and multiple incorrect bills after canceling. Anytime I would talk you customer service, they would always say... "If you want to see your correct bill, then you have to download the app." I continually would have to tell them that I'm not downloading their damn app and that they are big enough that they can have the corre…

You will be happy to learn that under Chair Khan, the FTC is going to prioritize enforcement actions against this specific practice. Only 1 Commissioner issued a dissenting statement. [1]

Comcast has probably already discontinued the practice, as it's been 2 weeks since the policy statement was issued.

[1] https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2021/10/ftc-r...

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

#20
DMV, and other gov services, in CA, as well as it seems other states, is now fully integrated with ID.me, which to me does not inspire trust. They even run a shop, https://shop.id.me/, with store discounts and so on. So, to give all the info to such an entity is risky as hell.

So, recently when I had to do something with DMV I just decided to go a little early and use the kiosks they have inside rather than use the online version which mandated that I link my DMV account and share all my personal info, the serious kind that DMV needs and not just name/email, with ID.me

Not sure how long this will be an option, but let's see.

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