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The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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I love the idea of modular, upgradable, and especially linux-friendly. But, because modular, I'd like a Framework Surface. Having the screen, keyboard, touchpad, computer, etc all integrated into a single device, seems like far too many factors and constraints to be able to reach perfection. Better to split at least the keyboard and pointing device, so you can pick and choose.

Me, too. I’ve bought my last laptop. The attachment of the keyboard to the display is an ergonomic disaster. Fortunately, several Surface models work well with Linux; there’s even a special kernel for them.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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“We only deliver to the US and Canada”. OK, will have to stay with my Macbook.

Yea, say what you want about Apple, but they seem to be one of the few tech companies that manage to ship all their products in all their configurations to almost all countries. So many times I read a review for something interesting sounding only to find out that that version isn't sold where I happen to live.

Yeah, but Apple also charges a hefty premium outside the US. Just look at the prices of Apple products in the US and the EU, and then compare with Samsung/Google/OnePlus.

Whatever makes Apple products more expensive in the EU doesn't appear to apply to anyone else.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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post #3

I love the idea of modular, upgradable, and especially linux-friendly. But, because modular, I'd like a Framework Surface. Having the screen, keyboard, touchpad, computer, etc all integrated into a single device, seems like far too many factors and constraints to be able to reach perfection. Better to split at least the keyboard and pointing device, so you can pick and choose.

Me, too. I’ve bought my last laptop. The attachment of the keyboard to the display is an ergonomic disaster. Fortunately, several Surface models work well with Linux; there’s even a special kernel for them.

I really wish I could get my Surface Pro 3 to play nice with Linux. I've even used the custom kernel, but every time, without fail, it seems to heat up until the entire system freezes, at which point I have to shut it down. Maybe it's a hardware issue?

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Looks like this is the official site: https://frame.work/ "Framework Laptop starts at $999. DIY Edition configurable from $749." - that's for the base model. Unfortunately I didn't see the display specifications while configuring the product. That is a major factor when making a decision for me.

The display specifications are shown here: https://frame.work/laptop 13.5” 3:2 2256x1504, 100% sRGB color gamut, and >400 nit

It is also IPS.

From NotebookCheck: «13.50 inch 3:2, 2256 x 1504 pixel 201 PPI, BOE CQ NE135FBM-N41, IPS, BOE095F, glossy: yes, 60 Hz»; «Framework uses the exact same ... as found on the Acer Swift 3 SF313. ... wide color coverage and relatively high contrast ratio. Response times are slow».

The issue is: being this "option" (without a clear alternative?) glossy instead of matte, the display also will require being a module as part of the modular framework.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Looks like this is the official site: https://frame.work/ "Framework Laptop starts at $999. DIY Edition configurable from $749." - that's for the base model. Unfortunately I didn't see the display specifications while configuring the product. That is a major factor when making a decision for me.

The NotebookCheck review has info about the display. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Framework-Laptop-13-5-Review-I...

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me, too. I’ve bought my last laptop. The attachment of the keyboard to the display is an ergonomic disaster. Fortunately, several Surface models work well with Linux; there’s even a special kernel for them.

I really wish I could get my Surface Pro 3 to play nice with Linux. I've even used the custom kernel, but every time, without fail, it seems to heat up until the entire system freezes, at which point I have to shut it down. Maybe it's a hardware issue?

That seems hardware related. I'm currently running a more-or-less out of the box install of PopOS on my Surface Pro 3

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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“We only deliver to the US and Canada”. OK, will have to stay with my Macbook.

We’re actively building the infrastructure to launch in additional countries. It’s a challenging logistical environment at the moment, but we very much built and certified the product to be broadly available, and we are reminded of the interest in that daily!

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, say what you want about Apple, but they seem to be one of the few tech companies that manage to ship all their products in all their configurations to almost all countries. So many times I read a review for something interesting sounding only to find out that that version isn't sold where I happen to live.

Yeah, but Apple also charges a hefty premium outside the US. Just look at the prices of Apple products in the US and the EU, and then compare with Samsung/Google/OnePlus. Whatever makes Apple products more expensive in the EU doesn't appear to apply to anyone else.

Maybe it's related to the warranty? Apple sells AppleCare separately, but it's basically a warranty that's already guaranteed under EU consumer law. So in the EU they should factor this into the price.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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There are no fanless CPUs among the options, and the consumptions are not explicit. The only battery mentioned is 55Wh.

CPUs with the lowest consumption are (sorry for the obvious points)

-- battery efficient, allow for more work per charge;

-- silent, requiring no fan;

-- often cheaper;

-- still quite fast for normal use.

So, I would not do without...

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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I love the idea of modular, upgradable, and especially linux-friendly. But, because modular, I'd like a Framework Surface. Having the screen, keyboard, touchpad, computer, etc all integrated into a single device, seems like far too many factors and constraints to be able to reach perfection. Better to split at least the keyboard and pointing device, so you can pick and choose.

That would be very interesting. Maybe I could finally fulfill my dream of a portable system that can raise the display to eye level while keeping the keyboard at an ergonomic level. I‘m surprised no one else seems to want this. Imagine if you could clip your screen onto the headrest in front of you. Wouldn‘t that be a huge improvement?

    Imagine if you could clip your screen onto the headrest in front of you
That's just a VR headset!
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