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> If you want a bad treatment in developer community, this is the way to go. Expectation surely changed in the last years. I have an M1 and don't expect any software to accommodate my bad choice of platforms, especially if there are ways you can just run it anyway.
Just because a tool is OSS doesn't mean it will be community driven, and it also doesn't mean the publisher is subservient to the community's whims. OSS just means you have options when you are done with the publisher.
The irony is that the whining is support for M1. If this was about running on something less proprietary than Apple maybe I would sympathize more.
Signal is a great product. I just sent them a donation in response to the disgusting behavior witnessed.
Wow what abusive behavior! Just because a tool is OSS doesn't mean it will be community driven, and it also doesn't mean the publisher is subservient to the community's whims. OSS just means you have options when you are done with the publisher. The irony is that the whining is support for M1. If this was about running on something less proprietary than Apple maybe I would sympathize more. Signal is a great product.…
Someone even say they have donated for a year, and will not donate until their demand is fulfilled.
Donation is voluntary. It's not a tool for demand the interest or forcing people fulfill request.
Wow what abusive behavior! Just because a tool is OSS doesn't mean it will be community driven, and it also doesn't mean the publisher is subservient to the community's whims. OSS just means you have options when you are done with the publisher. The irony is that the whining is support for M1. If this was about running on something less proprietary than Apple maybe I would sympathize more. Signal is a great product.…
Except that with signal you don't have options as they only allow their signed clients.
> We don't intend to support M1 yet. The post title should be fixed.
They clearly have their own m1 implementation and the contributed one is 'not invented here'.
> Signal has a policy around not talking about future features aka only we invent things here. open source in name only
I'm not saying M1 had backdoors, just curious that maybe they don't have enough access (or time) to guarantee things?
> If you want a bad treatment in developer community, this is the way to go. Expectation surely changed in the last years. I have an M1 and don't expect any software to accommodate my bad choice of platforms, especially if there are ways you can just run it anyway.
It's not a bad choice at all.
That said, for me this has little to do with the future of software and hardware innovation. In that regard it is a toy and is quickly delegated as such by other systems I use that tend to be more free and more powerful, just by the merit of giving me choice. Perhaps rougher around some edges than a stylized Apple product, sure. But anyway, this thread should not be about that.
But when I got the macbook, I was very aware that there will be hiccups in compatibility. I use non-native Blender and the performance is amazing considering that I use it with help of Rosetta on a passively cooled notebook. There might be a native implementation by now, but I would never presume to demand a project to accommodate my personal choice of processor architecture, even if someone already supplied a fix. Perhaps they just didn't have time to look at it or already had a solution under development and therefore closed a PR. I also think they don't owe any explanations. They probably close just as many PR for their projects without comment. To see it as an affront to the "developer community" is just a bit much.
Wow what abusive behavior! Just because a tool is OSS doesn't mean it will be community driven, and it also doesn't mean the publisher is subservient to the community's whims. OSS just means you have options when you are done with the publisher. The irony is that the whining is support for M1. If this was about running on something less proprietary than Apple maybe I would sympathize more. Signal is a great product.…
Signal is only Open source by name, as they don't authorize anyone to make their own clients. FOSS is about power to the end users, and Signal is fighting hard against it.
As far as I know,
libsignal-protocol-c =/= Signal Desktop
Signal Technology Foundation =/= Signal Messenger LLC
So what they are complaining about is that Signal Desktop does not at this time work NATIVELY with M1, while it DOES work with rosetta 2.
So what they demand is for the app to work natively rather than through rosetta which indeed does sound like a feature update.
Unless I'm mistaken this title is very misleading then.