Assuming that Wolt, similar to DoorDash, loses money... if Wolt loses less money than DoorDash, thereby having higher profits, does this make it a more or a less successful company than DoorDash?
DoorDash Joins Forces with Wolt
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#12This news worries me, because Wolt has been the only delivery service that I could use without frustration. Most others, in their crazy run towards customer acquisition and growth, are tripping over their own shoelaces: in some cases, even basic online ordering functionality is broken.
Wolt has been getting most things right and I hope this acquisition doesn't change that.
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#13Gross. Wolt was in my mind one of the less amoral delivery services. It's delivery staff are (soon to be were I'm sure) actual employees.
The delivery staff definitely aren't/weren't actual employees. They all have some kind of business entity set up that they use to bill Wolt
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#14Gross. Wolt was in my mind one of the less amoral delivery services. It's delivery staff are (soon to be were I'm sure) actual employees.
Wolt's delivery staff haven't been treated as actual employees in its native Finland. It was actually quite recent when the occupational safety administration ruled that Wolt's delivery staff are actually employees, but Wolt is appealing.
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#15As almost-daily user of Wolt, I'm interested to see how this will impact me. Maybe I finally won't have to pay 3 euros for McDonalds to get delivered for a 10minute walking distance.
Is 3 euros such a high price to pay someone to bike over to the restaurant and bring you a still warm meal?
My experiences with Wolt are that the food comes in a car and is not warm.
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#16Unrelated to the story - Who thought its a good idea to change scrollbar's behaviour? I scroll down a little and suddenly it jumps to the bottom of the page.
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#17Gross. Wolt was in my mind one of the less amoral delivery services. It's delivery staff are (soon to be were I'm sure) actual employees.
Wolt's delivery staff haven't been treated as actual employees in its native Finland. It was actually quite recent when the occupational safety administration ruled that Wolt's delivery staff are actually employees, but Wolt is appealing.
I wonder if that's why they are now exiting. They can see that there is no future for this kind of business as governments crack down on the platform economy.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who has used both Wolt and DoorDash I would say don't hold your breath on decreased fees. Probably it'll just get more opaque and restaurant menu prices will increase 10-20% while the additional fees stay the same so they can book more revenue without you feeling like you're paying more (because who is also googling the restaurant menu at the same time to compare?)
This is exactly what I see happening. Restaurants are increasing prices to cover the “Wolt tax”. My local McDonald’s does this.
Most pizza-places here attempt to avoid the "(wolt|foodora) tax" price increase for pickups by offering free drinks if you call and order instead of doing it through the app.
Wouldn't be surprised if they start splitting into separate legal entities soon to get out of the pickup price matching restrictions.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wolt's delivery staff haven't been treated as actual employees in its native Finland. It was actually quite recent when the occupational safety administration ruled that Wolt's delivery staff are actually employees, but Wolt is appealing.
I wonder if that's why they are now exiting. They can see that there is no future for this kind of business as governments crack down on the platform economy.
The same has been speculated in Finnish groups/forums, probably it affected the decision, but of course we can't know how much. They had also been thinking of going public, so this acquisition seems safer option
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#20As almost-daily user of Wolt, I'm interested to see how this will impact me. Maybe I finally won't have to pay 3 euros for McDonalds to get delivered for a 10minute walking distance.
As someone who has used both Wolt and DoorDash I would say don't hold your breath on decreased fees. Probably it'll just get more opaque and restaurant menu prices will increase 10-20% while the additional fees stay the same so they can book more revenue without you feeling like you're paying more (because who is also googling the restaurant menu at the same time to compare?)
And how is this worse? I'd prefer an upfront 20% increase instead of it being added later anyway in fees