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Re: The Startup CEO’s Guide to Customer Success and Onboarding

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Post by danielzarick »

jerrygoyal wrote: post #9

Contains just the surface level information like pick a CRM, regular updates to your superiors etc. Also this post is marketing for their own customer onboarding product (Arrow).

That's not a fair characterization of the guide at all. Did you even read it?

There's tons of useful information (fully available on the website, no need to download) for anybody who's building / working with a customer success team for the first time, which is much of the audience on HN.

And yes, our "marketing" is trying to be generous with our knowledge and experience. That doesn't mean it isn't useful.

Re: The Startup CEO’s Guide to Customer Success and Onboarding

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Post by danielzarick »

codingdave wrote: post #10
danielzarick wrote: post #2

(FYI - I’m the co-founder of Arrows, which created this guide) In our time building and working at startups, we came to realize customer success was a secret weapon that’s massively overlooked and underfunded. If you use customer success properly, it’s the core tool that helps you get to the SaaS holy grail of negative churn. The first employee we hired after raising money this year was our customer success advisor,…

> customer success was a secret weapon that’s massively overlooked and underfunded. You are right about its importance, of course, but why do you say it is overlooked and underfunded? Almost everyone I know acknowledges that it is critical to success, and it get serious focus.

Because even though tons of people think customer success is important and give it focus, we talk to startups every week who are still under-resourcing it and not giving their team the right focus... even though they'd tell you they believe in the impact of customer success.

Re: The Startup CEO’s Guide to Customer Success and Onboarding

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Post by temp004 »

This is the same resource in a pdf format all collected together if you don't want to keep clicking around:

https://attachments.convertkitcdnn.com/112815/c7859eeb-b6f1-...

(ps: my apologies to the arrows co-founder who I see is in the comments)

edit: I'm curious why this was downvoted? it's a more direct link to the same source and saves the users time. instead of being linked to a marketing funnel.

Re: The Startup CEO’s Guide to Customer Success and Onboarding

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Post by clarge1120 »

danielzarick wrote: post #11
jerrygoyal wrote: post #9

Contains just the surface level information like pick a CRM, regular updates to your superiors etc. Also this post is marketing for their own customer onboarding product (Arrow).

That's not a fair characterization of the guide at all. Did you even read it? There's tons of useful information (fully available on the website, no need to download) for anybody who's building / working with a customer success team for the first time, which is much of the audience on HN. And yes, our "marketing" is trying to be generous with our knowledge and experience. That doesn't mean it isn't useful.

The parent comment wasn't flattering, but it also wasn't unfair.

I did not read the guide, but did read the titles and summary info looking for the section that outlines the solution to the problem that is presented. It was not there. If it was, none of the titles indicated that it was. Given how nicely the guide is presented, I'm confident that the answer is not there. No need to read the guide.

Re: The Startup CEO’s Guide to Customer Success and Onboarding

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Post by handrous »

Am I missing something, or is "customer success" one of those things where people come up with a new term for existing things, but with "... done correctly" implied? I read the "What is customer success and why does it matter" part hoping for clarity, and that's what it reads like to me.

Re: The Startup CEO’s Guide to Customer Success and Onboarding

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Post by named-user »

handrous wrote: post #16

Am I missing something, or is "customer success" one of those things where people come up with a new term for existing things, but with "... done correctly" implied? I read the "What is customer success and why does it matter" part hoping for clarity, and that's what it reads like to me.

Customer engagement manager

Re: The Startup CEO’s Guide to Customer Success and Onboarding

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Post by danielzarick »

dudeman13 wrote: post #14

Somewhat off topic, but when I scroll down there is a position: fixed element that is always shown. The "book scrolling" animation was really distracting :|

Thanks for the feedback! Will think about ideas for how we can change it. Sorry you found it distracting, totally understand.

Re: The Startup CEO’s Guide to Customer Success and Onboarding

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Post by danielzarick »

clarge1120 wrote: post #15
danielzarick wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not a fair characterization of the guide at all. Did you even read it? There's tons of useful information (fully available on the website, no need to download) for anybody who's building / working with a customer success team for the first time, which is much of the audience on HN. And yes, our "marketing" is trying to be generous with our knowledge and experience. That doesn't mean it isn't useful.

The parent comment wasn't flattering, but it also wasn't unfair. I did not read the guide, but did read the titles and summary info looking for the section that outlines the solution to the problem that is presented. It was not there. If it was, none of the titles indicated that it was. Given how nicely the guide is presented, I'm confident that the answer is not there. No need to read the guide.

Appreciate your feedback, we will look into the titles and summaries to better explain the value inside each chapter.

Sorry you feel nice design devalues information.

Re: The Startup CEO’s Guide to Customer Success and Onboarding

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Post by danielzarick »

handrous wrote: post #16

Am I missing something, or is "customer success" one of those things where people come up with a new term for existing things, but with "... done correctly" implied? I read the "What is customer success and why does it matter" part hoping for clarity, and that's what it reads like to me.

It is definitely something different, and a different framing on some existing activities. But the same way that engineering roles change, non-engineering roles also change in focus and title and expectations.

Thanks for the feedback about that chapter, will dive in and see if we can try to make the answer more clear!

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