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Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#11

Post by zeroflow »

BossingAround wrote: post #6
rvz wrote: post #4

Better translation from: [0] > It means ultimately that decrypted firmware files will be available for hackers. This would make reverse engineering of the PS5 firmware possible, and from there, open possibilities for finding future exploits and/or write custom firmwares or Homebrew enablers. [0] https://wololo.net/2021/11/08/ps5-exploit-fail0verflow-show-...

> Fail0verflow have stated in the past that Jailbroken consoles are not worth it anymore since they are so close to computers in features and functionality Interesting. I don't own a PS5, but Xbox seems to be pretty much a PC [1] (weeeell, like a Chromecast-style PC anyways). The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users, and to r…

Well, If you look at both the PS5 and XBox One X, both of them are running customized AMD SoC's. But basically, that's just a AMD APU.

If my memory serves me correctly, the PS3 for comparison had a custom Cell CPU which was used for supercomputer clusters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster So they must have had some kind of edge compared to normal PCs.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#12

Post by throwaway2077 »

BossingAround wrote: post #6
rvz wrote: post #4

Better translation from: [0] > It means ultimately that decrypted firmware files will be available for hackers. This would make reverse engineering of the PS5 firmware possible, and from there, open possibilities for finding future exploits and/or write custom firmwares or Homebrew enablers. [0] https://wololo.net/2021/11/08/ps5-exploit-fail0verflow-show-...

> Fail0verflow have stated in the past that Jailbroken consoles are not worth it anymore since they are so close to computers in features and functionality Interesting. I don't own a PS5, but Xbox seems to be pretty much a PC [1] (weeeell, like a Chromecast-style PC anyways). The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users, and to r…

"I want to play pirated games" is a perfectly legitimate reason

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#13

Post by andrewksl »

5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #7
innocentoldguy wrote: post #5

If only people could obtain a Playstation 5 to go along with them.

I live in a third world country. What's funny is we have a lot of PlayStations and powerful video cards and top-level processors available. We just don't have any money to buy them. Maybe I should set up a mail-order business to serve Western hardware enthusiasts.

How much does a PS5 or 3080 go for in your neck of the globe?

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#14

Post by rbanffy »

BossingAround wrote: post #6
rvz wrote: post #4

Better translation from: [0] > It means ultimately that decrypted firmware files will be available for hackers. This would make reverse engineering of the PS5 firmware possible, and from there, open possibilities for finding future exploits and/or write custom firmwares or Homebrew enablers. [0] https://wololo.net/2021/11/08/ps5-exploit-fail0verflow-show-...

> Fail0verflow have stated in the past that Jailbroken consoles are not worth it anymore since they are so close to computers in features and functionality Interesting. I don't own a PS5, but Xbox seems to be pretty much a PC [1] (weeeell, like a Chromecast-style PC anyways). The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users, and to r…

The last “interesting” PlayStation in that regard was the PS3. The 4 was just a PC. The contemporary Xbox also had an interesting CPU, also PPC ISA. All successors were mostly x86 PCs.

There may be some ARM fun in the future, as thermals are a huge thing now (the PS5 is mostly a heatsink with a computer attached and the newest Xbox is kind of a chimney).

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#15

Post by rbanffy »

zeroflow wrote: post #11
BossingAround wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fail0verflow have stated in the past that Jailbroken consoles are not worth it anymore since they are so close to computers in features and functionality Interesting. I don't own a PS5, but Xbox seems to be pretty much a PC [1] (weeeell, like a Chromecast-style PC anyways). The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users, and to r…

Well, If you look at both the PS5 and XBox One X, both of them are running customized AMD SoC's. But basically, that's just a AMD APU. If my memory serves me correctly, the PS3 for comparison had a custom Cell CPU which was used for supercomputer clusters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster So they must have had some kind of edge compared to normal PCs.

> had some kind of edge compared to normal PCs.

They did, but the Cell SPUs were hard to program and that edge quickly eroded as the Cell proved to be a dead end and x86 CPUs continued to evolve.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#16

Post by 8draco8 »

throwaway2077 wrote: post #12
BossingAround wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fail0verflow have stated in the past that Jailbroken consoles are not worth it anymore since they are so close to computers in features and functionality Interesting. I don't own a PS5, but Xbox seems to be pretty much a PC [1] (weeeell, like a Chromecast-style PC anyways). The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users, and to r…

"I want to play pirated games" is a perfectly legitimate reason

This is the true reason that I feel like everybody are dancing around. Let's not lie to ourselves, hacking consoles in PS1, PS2 and DC era was for pirating games. Running unlicensed apps or linux was just a nice side effect of true goal. This days it's far less popular because of size, connectivity and prices of games.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#17

Post by stordoff »

BossingAround wrote: post #6
rvz wrote: post #4

Better translation from: [0] > It means ultimately that decrypted firmware files will be available for hackers. This would make reverse engineering of the PS5 firmware possible, and from there, open possibilities for finding future exploits and/or write custom firmwares or Homebrew enablers. [0] https://wololo.net/2021/11/08/ps5-exploit-fail0verflow-show-...

> Fail0verflow have stated in the past that Jailbroken consoles are not worth it anymore since they are so close to computers in features and functionality Interesting. I don't own a PS5, but Xbox seems to be pretty much a PC [1] (weeeell, like a Chromecast-style PC anyways). The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users, and to r…

> The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users

That was the PS3, through the OtherOS feature[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OtherOS

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#18

Post by AussieWog93 »

5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #7
innocentoldguy wrote: post #5

If only people could obtain a Playstation 5 to go along with them.

I live in a third world country. What's funny is we have a lot of PlayStations and powerful video cards and top-level processors available. We just don't have any money to buy them. Maybe I should set up a mail-order business to serve Western hardware enthusiasts.

You missed the boat on the PS5, unfortunately. They're selling for A$750 on the secondary market now - same as what they cost in regular stores.

(Unless Australia also has an oversupply...)

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#19

Post by solarkraft »

BossingAround wrote: post #6
rvz wrote: post #4

Better translation from: [0] > It means ultimately that decrypted firmware files will be available for hackers. This would make reverse engineering of the PS5 firmware possible, and from there, open possibilities for finding future exploits and/or write custom firmwares or Homebrew enablers. [0] https://wololo.net/2021/11/08/ps5-exploit-fail0verflow-show-...

> Fail0verflow have stated in the past that Jailbroken consoles are not worth it anymore since they are so close to computers in features and functionality Interesting. I don't own a PS5, but Xbox seems to be pretty much a PC [1] (weeeell, like a Chromecast-style PC anyways). The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users, and to r…

But aren’t modern consoles generally pretty good PCs at comparatively low prices?

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

#20

Post by PixelOfDeath »

rbanffy wrote: post #14
BossingAround wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fail0verflow have stated in the past that Jailbroken consoles are not worth it anymore since they are so close to computers in features and functionality Interesting. I don't own a PS5, but Xbox seems to be pretty much a PC [1] (weeeell, like a Chromecast-style PC anyways). The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users, and to r…

The last “interesting” PlayStation in that regard was the PS3. The 4 was just a PC. The contemporary Xbox also had an interesting CPU, also PPC ISA. All successors were mostly x86 PCs. There may be some ARM fun in the future, as thermals are a huge thing now (the PS5 is mostly a heatsink with a computer attached and the newest Xbox is kind of a chimney).

They are x86 APUs with a very powerful GPU and high memory bandwidth. Something you can not buy on the open market to use it as a PC so far.
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