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Re: OpenSimWorld, Directory of the OpenSimulator Metaverse

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Post by ehnto » Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 8:21 AM UTC

atribecalledqst wrote: post #6

Animats wrote: post #5

This is not the center of Open Simulator activity. This is just someone's directory of it. With ads. Just as Yahoo was "the directory of the Internet". With ads. I've used Open Simulator and never heard of this site before. A more useful site is Hypergrid Business.[1] This discusses the various players in the Open Simulator world and what they're doing. There already is a distributed, federated metaverse with no sing…

Reading the "What is OpenSim" page on your link and... it sounds like the "Metaverse" already exists. The term is being sold like it's a new thing that doesn't exist yet, but it seems like Facebook is behind the times. OpenSim seems pretty cool honestly. Similar draw as Second Life, in my mind. Though I downloaded Second Life and only played it a couple times.

These are ideas that have existed in pop culture for decades, and had a bunch of attempts at making it happen. It was surreal watching Zuckerberg talk about Horizon Home because it felt like he was projecting a Big Tech veneer over a hobbyists domain. People have been messing with this stuff in VR and earlier with virtual 3d desktops since the 90s, and possibly earlier that I am just not aware of.

It felt a bit like Elon Musk doing a keynote on a cool model RC plane he had built.

Re: OpenSimWorld, Directory of the OpenSimulator Metaverse

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Post by return1 » Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 8:27 AM UTC

avereveard wrote: post #7

What with the metaverse title?

Contrary to popular press, the metaverse wasn't invented by Zuck in october 2021. Opensimulator is the most popular open metaverse since 10 years and more.

Re: OpenSimWorld, Directory of the OpenSimulator Metaverse

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Post by jazzyjackson » Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 9:00 AM UTC

ehnto wrote: post #11

atribecalledqst wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading the "What is OpenSim" page on your link and... it sounds like the "Metaverse" already exists. The term is being sold like it's a new thing that doesn't exist yet, but it seems like Facebook is behind the times. OpenSim seems pretty cool honestly. Similar draw as Second Life, in my mind. Though I downloaded Second Life and only played it a couple times.

These are ideas that have existed in pop culture for decades, and had a bunch of attempts at making it happen. It was surreal watching Zuckerberg talk about Horizon Home because it felt like he was projecting a Big Tech veneer over a hobbyists domain. People have been messing with this stuff in VR and earlier with virtual 3d desktops since the 90s, and possibly earlier that I am just not aware of. It felt a bit like…

re: earlier than the 90s, I grabbed this link [0] from another metaverse thread, showing some 80s VR research (Judging by hardware, Sun-3, a macintosh, mentioned 20Mhz 386, otherwise no dates), I wish there was more info of who the people are, I would love to read their papers. At a Q&A near the middle, a researcher suggests allowing anyone to create content is a threat to the old publishers, pretty prescient but also typical 80s silicon valley I guess, but what do I know, I wasn’t born yet.

Also I rewatched Johnny Mnemonic today (set in 2021!) and apparently some form of that was written in 1981.

I realized what irk’d me so much about the Facebook’s presentation was that it had none of the flavor/aesthetic of being inside the computer, just a simulated mansion on the beach, super unimaginative, no attempt to explore the medium.

[0] https://youtu.be/5FC4UQDm_mQ

Re: OpenSimWorld, Directory of the OpenSimulator Metaverse

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Post by nix23 » Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 9:37 AM UTC

BTW the first "Metaverse" is getting a "reboot":

https://github.com/frandallfarmer/neohabitat

Re: OpenSimWorld, Directory of the OpenSimulator Metaverse

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Post by charcircuit » Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 9:44 AM UTC

return1 wrote: post #12

avereveard wrote: post #7

What with the metaverse title?

Contrary to popular press, the metaverse wasn't invented by Zuck in october 2021. Opensimulator is the most popular open metaverse since 10 years and more.

The biggest world has 6 users in it. It doesn't seem popular to me compared to something like VRChat.

Re: OpenSimWorld, Directory of the OpenSimulator Metaverse

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 9:48 AM UTC

charcircuit wrote: post #15

return1 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Contrary to popular press, the metaverse wasn't invented by Zuck in october 2021. Opensimulator is the most popular open metaverse since 10 years and more.

The biggest world has 6 users in it. It doesn't seem popular to me compared to something like VRChat.

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Re: OpenSimWorld, Directory of the OpenSimulator Metaverse

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Post by cblconfederate » Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 9:50 AM UTC

charcircuit wrote: post #15

return1 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Contrary to popular press, the metaverse wasn't invented by Zuck in october 2021. Opensimulator is the most popular open metaverse since 10 years and more.

The biggest world has 6 users in it. It doesn't seem popular to me compared to something like VRChat.

vrchat is not open source. opensimulator is not VR, nor a chat

Re: OpenSimWorld, Directory of the OpenSimulator Metaverse

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Post by charcircuit » Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 10:10 AM UTC

cblconfederate wrote: post #17

charcircuit wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest world has 6 users in it. It doesn't seem popular to me compared to something like VRChat.

vrchat is not open source. opensimulator is not VR, nor a chat

It may not be open source, but it is open. It's not some proprietary software only used in a single company.

Re: OpenSimWorld, Directory of the OpenSimulator Metaverse

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Post by cblconfederate » Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 10:18 AM UTC

charcircuit wrote: post #18

cblconfederate wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

vrchat is not open source. opensimulator is not VR, nor a chat

It may not be open source, but it is open. It's not some proprietary software only used in a single company.

I 'm not familiar, but can i run the server on my own machine to make sure that they won't be deleting / spying on it ?

Re: OpenSimWorld, Directory of the OpenSimulator Metaverse

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Post by offbynull » Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 10:37 AM UTC

CompuHacker wrote: post #4

The Active Worlds (unrelated software) universe server is still running and the client is still updated. This page has descriptions of some 94 worlds (of several hundred running, of several thousand all time total) that may still be accessible. http://wiki.activeworlds.com/index.php?title=Category%3AWorl...

I remember this from back in the day. It felt way ahead of it's time.

IIRC it originally had a single unified world, which was massive, and you could build stuff in it. It seemed almost endless. You'd just walk and walk and walk and keep seeing new things that people built.

Activeworlds is what I think about when people mention the metaverse. A cool concept with great execution that ultimately ends up going nowhere.