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A man who takes 6 months of paternity is a loser – Palantir founder Joe Lonsdale

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Re: A man who takes 6 months of paternity is a loser – Palantir founder Joe Lonsdale

#11
The rhetoric is harsh, but I can sympathize with him. I would rather my children see how hard I work (it never went unnoticed), and now that they are older I happily include them in on what I do. But those early years should be dedicated to learning how to be social and nice - things women are better at than men on average. Traditionally men have been the workers, women have been the caregivers. This model has worked for centuries.

Re: A man who takes 6 months of paternity is a loser – Palantir founder Joe Lonsdale

#14

The rhetoric is harsh, but I can sympathize with him. I would rather my children see how hard I work (it never went unnoticed), and now that they are older I happily include them in on what I do. But those early years should be dedicated to learning how to be social and nice - things women are better at than men on average. Traditionally men have been the workers, women have been the caregivers. This model has worked…

I have twin two year olds. Early on, I had to do a significant amount of work because there is two of them. But even with that work helping my wife, I still did not need any parental leave. Newborns are easy for a father... Just change the diaper, feed a bottle, and comfort them. Now that my kids are two years old, I need to spend more time with them teaching them things and I am sure that will grow. Maybe mothers should get leave right after birth and father's should get it as the kids get older to teach them more things?

Re: A man who takes 6 months of paternity is a loser – Palantir founder Joe Lonsdale

#16

I'm pretty sure that when I'm on my deathbed, I won't wish for just one more zoom meeting, but I am sure I will wish for a few more minutes with my son.

Yes, that is exactly the scenario to imagine.

It was that line of reasoning that had me switch off the TV two decades ago. (Now I just need to also dial down my internet attention.)

Re: A man who takes 6 months of paternity is a loser – Palantir founder Joe Lonsdale

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post #14

The rhetoric is harsh, but I can sympathize with him. I would rather my children see how hard I work (it never went unnoticed), and now that they are older I happily include them in on what I do. But those early years should be dedicated to learning how to be social and nice - things women are better at than men on average. Traditionally men have been the workers, women have been the caregivers. This model has worked…

I have twin two year olds. Early on, I had to do a significant amount of work because there is two of them. But even with that work helping my wife, I still did not need any parental leave. Newborns are easy for a father... Just change the diaper, feed a bottle, and comfort them. Now that my kids are two years old, I need to spend more time with them teaching them things and I am sure that will grow. Maybe mothers sh…

I think women should get more leave than what has been traditionally given. If a child is not properly socialized by the age of four, good luck after that. Women are just naturally better at doing that.

Now that my kids are older I spend a lot more time with them than when they were too young for school. All of them are very good gardeners - theyve been helping me in the garden since they were old enough to move around in there without hurting themselves. My oldest daughter can swing a hammer better than most men. I enjoy spending time with them and showing them how to do things.

Re: A man who takes 6 months of paternity is a loser – Palantir founder Joe Lonsdale

#18
post #7

Every time I've switched jobs I looked back and questioned the time and effort I put in. It seems like I never got back what I put in. When it comes to my son though, I've never once regretted the time and effort I dedicated to him. Sounds like the real loser is Joe Lonsdale. I hope he'll come to understand what's truly import during the short time on this planet before it's too late.

I don't know if Jon is a father but I would absolutely not be surprised if, when he becomes one, he does take a healthy paternity leave.

Many of these people are very "do as I say, not as i do" types.

Re: A man who takes 6 months of paternity is a loser – Palantir founder Joe Lonsdale

#20

The rhetoric is harsh, but I can sympathize with him. I would rather my children see how hard I work (it never went unnoticed), and now that they are older I happily include them in on what I do. But those early years should be dedicated to learning how to be social and nice - things women are better at than men on average. Traditionally men have been the workers, women have been the caregivers. This model has worked…

We are talking about the first 6 months (I don't think your 6 month old will appreciate how much you were working that first 6 months).

I'm no history major but I am pretty sure woman have been as much the workers as men (think the gather component of hunter/gatherer).

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