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Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

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Post by russellbeattie » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:17 PM UTC

makeworld wrote: post #3

Title needs a correction. It is AGPLv3, not GPLv3. I suspect this was posted today because Trump's new social network was outed as using Mastodon, likely illegally. https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dgm5k/truth-social-is-masto...

I adore that the network is named "Pravda" and has a clause that says you can't criticize the service or its founders! Classic!

One has to really give a shout out to Trump's Russian handlers. They apparently have a great sense of humor and/or irony. They also know conservative right wing Americans are too stupid to notice or care. It's almost artistic, really.

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

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Post by wyager » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:18 PM UTC

makeworld wrote: post #3

Title needs a correction. It is AGPLv3, not GPLv3. I suspect this was posted today because Trump's new social network was outed as using Mastodon, likely illegally. https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dgm5k/truth-social-is-masto...

Interesting. Is it protocol-compatible with other mastodon instances? (I'm not very familiar with how these fediverse sites work.)

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

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Post by gargron » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:19 PM UTC

mathnmusic wrote: post #6

How do things stand on account portability? If I sign up at a mastodon server, build an audience and network there, but later if the server admin changes its policies in unfavorable directions, can I migrate to a new server with all my contacts and reputation intact - even without the old admin's cooperation?

Hi, yes, you can move your followers to another account, and export/import other contacts. Perhaps not entirely without the old admin's cooperation though.

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

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Post by pkulak » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:20 PM UTC

nrclark wrote: post #9

PaybackTony wrote: post #5

Background: I've been building a growing commercial social network. There are things about what I want to do that made that the better option for what my target market is. With that said, I really like what Mastodon has done and as far as federated and open social networks go (ActivityPub!). It's in a class of its own IMO.

Please tell me you're not building Truth. If you are, you should stop right now and consider the effects that your actions will have. No amount of money is worth your soul.

Well, Truth isn't so much growing as it's collapsing.

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

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Post by karmanyaahm » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:21 PM UTC

nrclark wrote: post #9

PaybackTony wrote: post #5

Background: I've been building a growing commercial social network. There are things about what I want to do that made that the better option for what my target market is. With that said, I really like what Mastodon has done and as far as federated and open social networks go (ActivityPub!). It's in a class of its own IMO.

Please tell me you're not building Truth. If you are, you should stop right now and consider the effects that your actions will have. No amount of money is worth your soul.

That's just a stolen and license-violating Mastodon, not much building involved

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

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Post by jeroenhd » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:22 PM UTC

wyager wrote: post #12

makeworld wrote: post #3

Title needs a correction. It is AGPLv3, not GPLv3. I suspect this was posted today because Trump's new social network was outed as using Mastodon, likely illegally. https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dgm5k/truth-social-is-masto...

Interesting. Is it protocol-compatible with other mastodon instances? (I'm not very familiar with how these fediverse sites work.)

I'd think it'll just disable the federation API.

Mastodon already has blacklists to prevent abuse from certain servers, and given Trump's target audience, the block would probably be mutual.

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

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Post by karmanyaahm » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:22 PM UTC

wyager wrote: post #12

makeworld wrote: post #3

Title needs a correction. It is AGPLv3, not GPLv3. I suspect this was posted today because Trump's new social network was outed as using Mastodon, likely illegally. https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dgm5k/truth-social-is-masto...

Interesting. Is it protocol-compatible with other mastodon instances? (I'm not very familiar with how these fediverse sites work.)

It is compatible since it's using the exact same codebase, but practically everyone on the mainstream fediverse has blocked them, and I suspect they probably will turn off federation.

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

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Post by jordigh » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:23 PM UTC

crate_barre wrote: post #8

Trump’s upcoming social network app is using Mastadon. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-accused-ripping-code-s... Not trying to get political, but this site is obviously going to be the biggest Mastadon showcase.

Nothing obvious about it. It's only "obvious" if you get political.

Trump has started a couple of other alt megaphones for himself since he got booted off Twitter and they failed. He's tried email and he's tried blogs and he doesn't get enough attention on them, so he quits. This one has already started ridiculed and with poor security and moderation practices before it's even gotten off the ground. I am not sure how Parler, which caters to the same audience, is faring nowadays, but I don't get the impression it's really the alt social media juggernaut its proponents have hoped for. Gab also is for the maga crowd and it hasn't been a large crowd. The fediverse at large isn't that large either, for that matter.

So, let's see how Trump does this time.

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

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Post by hd4 » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:27 PM UTC

karmanyaahm wrote: post #15

nrclark wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please tell me you're not building Truth. If you are, you should stop right now and consider the effects that your actions will have. No amount of money is worth your soul.

That's just a stolen and license-violating Mastodon, not much building involved

I try and avoid any news about that person so I don't know much about Truth other than it exists, how is it violating any license?

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:28 PM UTC

nrclark wrote: post #9

PaybackTony wrote: post #5

Background: I've been building a growing commercial social network. There are things about what I want to do that made that the better option for what my target market is. With that said, I really like what Mastodon has done and as far as federated and open social networks go (ActivityPub!). It's in a class of its own IMO.

Please tell me you're not building Truth. If you are, you should stop right now and consider the effects that your actions will have. No amount of money is worth your soul.

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