So we may still find some day ice-nine like the one found in Kurt Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle. Or do we know that it's impossible?
The pressures required for those ices make them unstable and, thankfully, unable to freeze the ocean.
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#12So we may still find some day ice-nine like the one found in Kurt Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle. Or do we know that it's impossible?
There's an anecdote that Vonnegut was talking to a scientist at a party and explained the idea for Ice-9. The scientist went pale and sat in a corner for a couple of hours staring into space in deep thought, after which he stood up with a smile and said "No, it's impossible".
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#13Rabbit hole alert: Ho, M. W. (2014). Large supramolecular water clusters caught on camera-A review. Water , 6, 1-12. https://www.academia.edu/6280471/Large_supramolecular_water_... This is around the very controversial question of whether amorphous water can have a structure. Controversy, because homeopathy. Pretty pictures, though!
This is another rabbit hole: using EMF to dissociate H&O in saltwater, making it appear to burn. Like, electrode less electrolysis—but damn cool that radio waves can do this!
Rao, M. L., Sedlmayr, S. R., Roy, R., & Kanzius, J. (2010). Polarized microwave and RF radiation effects on the structure and stability of liquid water. Curr. Sci, 98(11), 1500-1504.
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#14So we may still find some day ice-nine like the one found in Kurt Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle. Or do we know that it's impossible?
It would seem to me some laws of thermodynamics would prevent any such "infection"-style reaction, but I am not a physicist nor chemist.
Supercooled water shows this kind of reaction with normal ice.
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#15Rabbit hole alert: Ho, M. W. (2014). Large supramolecular water clusters caught on camera-A review. Water , 6, 1-12. https://www.academia.edu/6280471/Large_supramolecular_water_... This is around the very controversial question of whether amorphous water can have a structure. Controversy, because homeopathy. Pretty pictures, though!
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Or if that doesn't work for some reason just search the term the parent above posted. Was the first results for me.
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#16tritium is fascinating. it's water but radioactive.
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#17Rabbit hole alert: Ho, M. W. (2014). Large supramolecular water clusters caught on camera-A review. Water , 6, 1-12. https://www.academia.edu/6280471/Large_supramolecular_water_... This is around the very controversial question of whether amorphous water can have a structure. Controversy, because homeopathy. Pretty pictures, though!
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#18So we may still find some day ice-nine like the one found in Kurt Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle. Or do we know that it's impossible?
You may find this Kurzgesagt entertaining. Not explicitly ice-nine, but related.
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#19So we may still find some day ice-nine like the one found in Kurt Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle. Or do we know that it's impossible?
It would seem to me some laws of thermodynamics would prevent any such "infection"-style reaction, but I am not a physicist nor chemist.
There is some debate in a certain context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_8yK2kmxoo
Entertaining too!
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#20I love this straightforward writing style.