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Interface ergonomics: automation isn't just about time saved

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Re: Interface ergonomics: automation isn't just about time saved

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Another thing is - automation is documentation. It might just be three 1-line bash commands that you have as muscle memory that you do once a week - so there's no time save.

But automation will save you a lot of time and stress if you had long vacations or worked on a different project for half a year. Suddenly the muscle memory isn't there and you have to learn the hard way AGAIN if it's not automated.

Re: Interface ergonomics: automation isn't just about time saved

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> Automation not only saves you time, it changes what you do. This bears repeating. When you automate a task, you often push it over a "breakpoint" where it suddenly makes certain things profitable in terms of effort. For example, say you fill up a water bottle and place it within arm's reach, instead of running to the tap every time you're thirsty. You save maybe 10 seconds per sip, but the real win is that you can…

In the software development realm, the biggest spot I see automation paying off is when it fosters consistency. To take an example from operations: To me (admittedly speaking from the developer side of things), the overwhelming benefit of containerization has nothing to do with elasticity or scaling or really any of the marketing buzzwords. The real benefit is that Docker and friends encourage presenting a much more…

As someone in operations, totally this. Consistency is the biggest thing.

I've worked with plenty of wizards that can figure anything/everything out, but these deviations have a hidden cost.

The farm of resources no longer behaves like cattle, it's all pets - with their own identities, personalities, etc.

Containers abstract most of this away, a simple runtime and any host can be just like another with a tiny amount of automation.

We get things like scale from this, but if it 'works on your machine' but not ours, we're no further.

Re: Interface ergonomics: automation isn't just about time saved

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As you make something cheaper demand for it goes up. Easy to forget about it when you try to calculate the value of automation. I'd say in most cases automation pays off if you do it properly, not to do the intended task but to do all the unintended tasks, reusing the automation code for later, reducing errors from manual work and opens up doors for new product design paths in the future. This assumes that you actual…

Right, so we have a number of advantages of automation that aren't captured in a simplistic time calculation like the "Is It Worth the Time?" XKCD: - if you can do something more quickly you might also choose to do it more often - automation can reduce human errors - once something is fully automated it can be used as a building block in a larger piece of automation I can think of one more: - automation can make it e…

> - automating something can lose a human "sanity check" (for example, you could generate reports full of missing data and maybe nobody will notice for a while)

Yeah, you shouldn't automate things that you don't know how to automate. Don't use ML for automation for example.

Re: Interface ergonomics: automation isn't just about time saved

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the software development realm, the biggest spot I see automation paying off is when it fosters consistency. To take an example from operations: To me (admittedly speaking from the developer side of things), the overwhelming benefit of containerization has nothing to do with elasticity or scaling or really any of the marketing buzzwords. The real benefit is that Docker and friends encourage presenting a much more…

As someone in operations, totally this. Consistency is the biggest thing. I've worked with plenty of wizards that can figure anything/everything out, but these deviations have a hidden cost. The farm of resources no longer behaves like cattle, it's all pets - with their own identities, personalities, etc. Containers abstract most of this away, a simple runtime and any host can be just like another with a tiny amount…

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Re: Interface ergonomics: automation isn't just about time saved

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Something that seemed somewhat implicit in this article, but never fully stated, is that it also increases the quality of the work, or in other words, decreases the probability of bugs and errors. Every time you do a manual process, you introduce the possibility for a lot of human error. That's where a lot of the "willingness" vs. "unwillingness" comes in (aside from just the "time" aspect, or partially as a cause of the "time" aspect). The more boring the task, the more likely you are to sleepwalk through it and not be thorough in checking things. This leads to bugs, and can either (ideally) increase the time of the task since they immediately surface and then you are "shaken awake" and have to dig around for what you mistyped, or in the worst case, go in undetected. Like everything computers do, and kind of the whole point of programming, a script can go into the task with the same "willingness" every time. That weird edge case you found when you did the task the first time when it was still interesting can get coded in and checked for. Future weird bugs can then be trivially added to the automation script vs. just noted as a "WARNING" in a README that will never get read. If there's no existing tool, then the activation energy to create that tool just to account for that weird thing that happened that one time is always beyond the "fuck it, let's just make a note" boundary. As such, it's best to just bite the bullet in the beginning. The unfortunate thing is that this is really a indictment of our workflows in general. Much of what we do is so close to programming as it is, it sucks that "putting it into a literal program" can be such a chore (and it very much is).

Re: Interface ergonomics: automation isn't just about time saved

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Something that seemed somewhat implicit in this article, but never fully stated, is that it also increases the quality of the work, or in other words, decreases the probability of bugs and errors. Every time you do a manual process, you introduce the possibility for a lot of human error. That's where a lot of the "willingness" vs. "unwillingness" comes in (aside from just the "time" aspect, or partially as a cause of…

Another important is that automation can solve the problem of passing the knowledge (on how to do something).

This happens when the person that uses the automation no longer needs to learn how to do the task.

Teaching people is actually extremely expensive even if you forget about reliability of entire process.

People have limited ability to learn stuff. So being able to automate certain tasks not only allows people to do more in less time or do it better, it can actually allow doing more things that the person would ever be able to learn, without need of learning.

Re: Interface ergonomics: automation isn't just about time saved

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As a UX practitioner with engineering experience, I'm happy to see an article like this, but also a bit disheartened that in 2021 it's still a revelation for many that frustration, satisfaction, and cognitive load are key considerations in prioritization in addition to raw efficiency.

How can you live? I took two classes in UX in college 20 years ago. I still can't walk into a kitchen without cursing the bad UX of the stove.

Are you implying that all stoves in all kitchens are bad? At least that's what it looks like you are saying.

Re: Interface ergonomics: automation isn't just about time saved

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can you live? I took two classes in UX in college 20 years ago. I still can't walk into a kitchen without cursing the bad UX of the stove.

Are you implying that all stoves in all kitchens are bad? At least that's what it looks like you are saying.

Almost without exception. There is no way of knowing without careful study which burner will turn on when you turn a knob. (generally you know the side, but not front/back) Every time I move I need to figure out a different stove, and so I'm often turning on the wrong burner because I have the wrong habit. Most people think "opps, I'm stupid again" when that happens, but I have enough UX background to know that the real problem is the UX is terrible.

Re: Interface ergonomics: automation isn't just about time saved

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>This is an example of an unethical interface. One week of programmer time would have easily saved multiple weeks of designer time...

>When developing things which have a human interacting with it, you should consider how much you value your life time, and have empathy for your users' life time.

Well articulated. Outside of software and technology, people have to use software tools that they have little control over - tools assigned for their job. When authors take the time to understand how their tools are used, it can have a profound impact on the daily work for a huge number of people.

For example, I interact my electronic medical records system between 2-5+ hours each day. To write a document requires 15 mouse clicks, with a 1+ second load time after each click. It's painful. I would use the author's words to describe this as an unethical interface. If the devs who wrote this software had to use it for their daily work, I imagine that they would demand new tools or leave in frustration. But for us, as users without a choice, it contributes to dissatisfaction at work and ultimately to burn-out.

Re: Interface ergonomics: automation isn't just about time saved

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Something that seemed somewhat implicit in this article, but never fully stated, is that it also increases the quality of the work, or in other words, decreases the probability of bugs and errors. Every time you do a manual process, you introduce the possibility for a lot of human error. That's where a lot of the "willingness" vs. "unwillingness" comes in (aside from just the "time" aspect, or partially as a cause of…

Another important is that automation can solve the problem of passing the knowledge (on how to do something). This happens when the person that uses the automation no longer needs to learn how to do the task. Teaching people is actually extremely expensive even if you forget about reliability of entire process. People have limited ability to learn stuff. So being able to automate certain tasks not only allows people…

Not only that, but they can use the automation (assuming it was written for others to read) to teach themselves if needed/desired.
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