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iPhone Macro: A Big Day for Small Things

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Re: iPhone Macro: A Big Day for Small Things

#11

Going be amazing for people working on PCBs, to read difficult package markings and to inspect solder pads instead of using a microscope.

Honestly, as someone who is starting to go long-sighted, this is tempting me towards getting a 13 pro (or Pixel 6 i it is similarly good).

I frequently find myself using my phone camera to zoom in on ridiculously small text on things, but my phone has always struggled with it. Good phone macro will be a feature I would use all the time.

Re: iPhone Macro: A Big Day for Small Things

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I feel the need to point out that Nikon has always called extreme closeup lenses micro instead of the oxymoronic macro the rest of the industry uses: https://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/f-mount/#special .

That's because the original micro lenses were commissioned to resolve images of microfilms iirc[1] (See under 1962), and doesn't really have anything to do with the macro/micro relationship.

[1] - https://www.nikon.com/about/corporate/history/chronology/194...

Re: iPhone Macro: A Big Day for Small Things

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While the 13 Pro's lens is undoubtedly a marvel of engineering, I feel like all those 'mind.blown' reviews must have been written by youngsters who never used a dedicated macro lens on a (D)SLR.

Having that functionality in your pocket, instantly usable, beats having an SLR in the closet at home with a macro lens that you can switch to for a passing need.

And FWIW, the curse of SLR macro lenses is minuscule depth of field, so much so that many take many photos (presuming a perfectly stationary subject), bracket the focus, and stack by sharpness. It's a hugely involved process. A macro lens with a tiny focal length instantly has a big advantage, though depth of field is still going to be a problem given the fixed aperture.

It most real world scenarios I think the average person will have a much better chance of successful results.

Re: iPhone Macro: A Big Day for Small Things

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I feel the need to point out that Nikon has always called extreme closeup lenses micro instead of the oxymoronic macro the rest of the industry uses: https://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/f-mount/#special .

That's because the original micro lenses were commissioned to resolve images of microfilms iirc[1] (See under 1962), and doesn't really have anything to do with the macro/micro relationship. [1] - https://www.nikon.com/about/corporate/history/chronology/194...

This is a fantastic nugget of info, thank you!

Re: iPhone Macro: A Big Day for Small Things

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I feel the need to point out that Nikon has always called extreme closeup lenses micro instead of the oxymoronic macro the rest of the industry uses: https://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/f-mount/#special .

The name Macro makes perfect sense. It doesn’t refer to the size of the subjects being shot, but rather to the magnification factor. Macro lenses are capable of preserving 1:1 scale between the subject and film/sensor

Re: iPhone Macro: A Big Day for Small Things

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It is may be worth mentioning that it is very difficult to get such amazing pictures without a very stable setup -- both for the subject and for the camera. Even if you have enough light for a high shutter speed, it can be difficult to compose a macro shot if there is any motion at all. And, as was pointed out, lighting/shadows can be tricky when the "camera" lens is just a few inches away.

Forget about composing the shot, it's often even a struggle just to keep the depth of field centered where you want it. (Apple might be handling that via smarter autofocus, though)

A little sway left or right can be cropped away, but missed focus ruins the shot.

Re: iPhone Macro: A Big Day for Small Things

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While the 13 Pro's lens is undoubtedly a marvel of engineering, I feel like all those 'mind.blown' reviews must have been written by youngsters who never used a dedicated macro lens on a (D)SLR.

Having that functionality in your pocket, instantly usable, beats having an SLR in the closet at home with a macro lens that you can switch to for a passing need. And FWIW, the curse of SLR macro lenses is minuscule depth of field, so much so that many take many photos (presuming a perfectly stationary subject), bracket the focus, and stack by sharpness. It's a hugely involved process. A macro lens with a tiny focal…

But that's how physics work. If iPhone Macro doesn't suffer the same issues, then it's a software trick

Re: iPhone Macro: A Big Day for Small Things

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post #12
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I feel the need to point out that Nikon has always called extreme closeup lenses micro instead of the oxymoronic macro the rest of the industry uses: https://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/f-mount/#special .

That's because the original micro lenses were commissioned to resolve images of microfilms iirc[1] (See under 1962), and doesn't really have anything to do with the macro/micro relationship. [1] - https://www.nikon.com/about/corporate/history/chronology/194...

These kinds of comments are what I miss seeing in the majority of posts on HN. Thanks for this esoteric bit of knowledge!

Re: iPhone Macro: A Big Day for Small Things

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While this is obviously a promo for the Halide camera app (which is awesome, mind you) it's full of useful information on macro photography, regardless. This bit in particular caught my eye: "What makes Halide 2.5’s Macro Mode so special? For one, it brings Macro capabilities to all iPhones." (not just the iPhone 13 Pro)

I will admit that I got a little tinge of resentment when I realized it was an ad/announcement for their app but that quickly subsided when I realized that I would much rather have educational/informative ads like this than the alternative. Even if I don't download their app, I got something useful from this and that's ok with me.
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