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Twitch Hack of 135 GB of Data Includes How Much Its Biggest Streamers Make

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Post by tyingq »

adventured wrote: post #8
janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

> It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia It should strike you as weird, because that's false. The American Dream can be best lived by Scandinavians in the US. Scandinavians do better in the US than they do in Scandinavia and that has been true for the past century. Among the US population, people from Scandinavia and or of Scandinavian descent produce exceptional outcome…

It is hard to compare the two, since a Scandinavian emigrating to the US is an outlier in that they have the resources to do so.

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Post by ch4s3 »

adventured wrote: post #8
janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

> It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia It should strike you as weird, because that's false. The American Dream can be best lived by Scandinavians in the US. Scandinavians do better in the US than they do in Scandinavia and that has been true for the past century. Among the US population, people from Scandinavia and or of Scandinavian descent produce exceptional outcome…

The same is true if you look at Somali refugee families which spilt up and go to both Sweden and the US. The US branch of the families integrate faster, earn more, attain higher levels of education, and have fewer encounters with law enforcement. The last point should really surprise many Americans.

Interestingly, Minneapolis, where virtually all Somali-Americans live has strong Scandinavian roots.

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Post by trixie_ »

janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

A good portion of the United States is against any sort of identification system in general. It’s why voting is so complicated. Some kind open income system in unfathomable to the vast majority of Americans.

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Post by acchow »

adventured wrote: post #8
janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

> It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia It should strike you as weird, because that's false. The American Dream can be best lived by Scandinavians in the US. Scandinavians do better in the US than they do in Scandinavia and that has been true for the past century. Among the US population, people from Scandinavia and or of Scandinavian descent produce exceptional outcome…

> And Scandinavians in the US are far richer than Scandinavians in Scandinavia, at both the median and average.

The Scandinavians immigrating to the US are not a random sampling of Scandinavians. Getting a visa to live in the US usually requires a high-paying job. Usually of high skill or of exceptional talent. Basically the US work visa system selects for the cream of the crop.

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Post by celticninja »

mywittyname wrote: post #7
janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

I'd prefer to keep my finances private, thanks. No good can come from nosey-ass family members, scammers, sales people, etc knowing this kind of information. It doesn't fight against tax evasion or anything, because the wealthy of the world will have yet another incentive to mask their income / assets through any of the number of mechanisms currently available. If you want pay transparency to fight pay inequality, th…

Imagine not trusting your family with knowing how much you earn.

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Post by celticninja »

trixie_ wrote: post #13
janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

A good portion of the United States is against any sort of identification system in general. It’s why voting is so complicated. Some kind open income system in unfathomable to the vast majority of Americans.

So are a lot of things that the rest of the world do, but the rest of the world keep on doing them and they work just fine.

Almost like the issue isn't the 'thing' being done, but the people.

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Post by edoceo »

celticninja wrote: post #15
mywittyname wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer to keep my finances private, thanks. No good can come from nosey-ass family members, scammers, sales people, etc knowing this kind of information. It doesn't fight against tax evasion or anything, because the wealthy of the world will have yet another incentive to mask their income / assets through any of the number of mechanisms currently available. If you want pay transparency to fight pay inequality, th…

Imagine not trusting your family with knowing how much you earn.

My family is, perhaps "interesting", so it's not hard to imagine at all. Just cause they're blood doesn't mean they're good.

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Post by 1991g »

celticninja wrote: post #15
mywittyname wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer to keep my finances private, thanks. No good can come from nosey-ass family members, scammers, sales people, etc knowing this kind of information. It doesn't fight against tax evasion or anything, because the wealthy of the world will have yet another incentive to mask their income / assets through any of the number of mechanisms currently available. If you want pay transparency to fight pay inequality, th…

Imagine not trusting your family with knowing how much you earn.

Not everyone is blessed with a loving and supportive family, unfortunately. Surely you know this?

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Post by [deleted] »

trixie_ wrote: post #13
janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

A good portion of the United States is against any sort of identification system in general. It’s why voting is so complicated. Some kind open income system in unfathomable to the vast majority of Americans.

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Post by SkyMarshal »

celticninja wrote: post #15
mywittyname wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer to keep my finances private, thanks. No good can come from nosey-ass family members, scammers, sales people, etc knowing this kind of information. It doesn't fight against tax evasion or anything, because the wealthy of the world will have yet another incentive to mask their income / assets through any of the number of mechanisms currently available. If you want pay transparency to fight pay inequality, th…

Imagine not trusting your family with knowing how much you earn.

There are tons of dysfunctional families in the world. The US just had one in the Executive branch. Don't you think Mary Trump probably has good reason to not want Donald knowing her income?
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