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Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by ballenf »

recursive wrote: post #2

Seems unlikely. How many people have installed AMP blockers specifically on ios15? How many people have installed AMP blockers on any other platform that's not being UA-sniffed?

People who

- use iOS 15 (including betas)

- hate AMP

- still use Google for search

- went to the trouble of finding and installing such an extension

is probably a number that rounds to 0.0% of Google searches.

Not meant as a critique of the extension writer, just agree that this explanation seems highly implausible to me.

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by afavour »

Google launched "Core Web Vitals" a while back as their "open" alternative to the requirement to provide AMP versions of pages. It's possible they're running some kind of A/B test with AMP vs CWV calculation and filtering based on iOS version.

Maybe an odd thing to do but IMO no less odd than giving up on AMP in iOS 15 because of browser extensions, I can't believe the number of people using AMP-blocking extensions is that high yet.

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by sa1 »

gruez wrote: post #5

>So, is it possible that Google has given up on AMP in Safari on iOS 15 because of the popularity of AMP blocking extensions? This doesn't make any sense. If AMP is strictly beneficial for google, why would google give up because of a few people with AMP blocking extensions? Surely it's still worth going after the stragglers? You don't see them giving up on ads just because adblock is popular. I suspect the reason is…

The page also says:

> I know from my own testing that Google search results still included AMP links for the first week after iOS 15 was released on September 20

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

#15

Post by zbowling »

theshrike79 wrote: post #4
recursive wrote: post #2

Seems unlikely. How many people have installed AMP blockers specifically on ios15? How many people have installed AMP blockers on any other platform that's not being UA-sniffed?

Amplosion got a big boost by being made by the same guy who did Apollo (pretty much the de facto Reddit client on iOS). I don't get bothered by AMP pages that much, but I paid the few euros for Amplosion just to support Christian's work and give a middle finger to Google's attempts to take over the web.

Apollo is not the defacto reddit client. Reddit's own app is.

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by gruez »

sa1 wrote: post #14
gruez wrote: post #5

>So, is it possible that Google has given up on AMP in Safari on iOS 15 because of the popularity of AMP blocking extensions? This doesn't make any sense. If AMP is strictly beneficial for google, why would google give up because of a few people with AMP blocking extensions? Surely it's still worth going after the stragglers? You don't see them giving up on ads just because adblock is popular. I suspect the reason is…

The page also says: > I know from my own testing that Google search results still included AMP links for the first week after iOS 15 was released on September 20

I guess the revised explanation would be "random regression in ios 15 safari that affected AMP"

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by Nextgrid »

zbowling wrote: post #15
theshrike79 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amplosion got a big boost by being made by the same guy who did Apollo (pretty much the de facto Reddit client on iOS). I don't get bothered by AMP pages that much, but I paid the few euros for Amplosion just to support Christian's work and give a middle finger to Google's attempts to take over the web.

Apollo is not the defacto reddit client. Reddit's own app is.

Reddit's own app is an adware & malware that happens to display some Reddit content.

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by dperfect »

ballenf wrote: post #11
recursive wrote: post #2

Seems unlikely. How many people have installed AMP blockers specifically on ios15? How many people have installed AMP blockers on any other platform that's not being UA-sniffed?

People who - use iOS 15 (including betas) - hate AMP - still use Google for search - went to the trouble of finding and installing such an extension is probably a number that rounds to 0.0% of Google searches. Not meant as a critique of the extension writer, just agree that this explanation seems highly implausible to me.

I agree – the number is probably insignificant, but I don't think you have to restrict your estimate to people who hate AMP. Basically an average iOS user (likely using Google as it's still the default last I checked) who in the past installed an extension to block unwanted content (ads/malware/etc) may be blocking AMP links without even knowing what they are.

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by SllX »

zbowling wrote: post #15
theshrike79 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amplosion got a big boost by being made by the same guy who did Apollo (pretty much the de facto Reddit client on iOS). I don't get bothered by AMP pages that much, but I paid the few euros for Amplosion just to support Christian's work and give a middle finger to Google's attempts to take over the web.

Apollo is not the defacto reddit client. Reddit's own app is.

Nah. Reddit’s client is the official Reddit client, but Apollo is the de facto one for people who want to actually use Reddit.

Also Apollo now has a Safari extension which will automatically redirect Reddit links to Apollo. Previously this was a manual process after the page already loaded after telling Reddit for the umpteen-billionth time you want Safari, not the official Reddit client.

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