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Clinical trial shows that the use of Vitamin D supplement improves sleep quality

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Re: Clinical trial shows that the use of Vitamin D supplement improves sleep quality

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50,000 IUs every 15 days for 8 weeks. I wonder if it would have better effects if they were given 3-4k IUs every day

I keep reading about these “IU”s on HN, what on earth are they? Here in the uk you just buy “Vitamin D” and take one pill per day. No fine-tuning, unless you need specialised therapy perhaps.

Re: Clinical trial shows that the use of Vitamin D supplement improves sleep quality

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50,000 IUs every 15 days for 8 weeks. I wonder if it would have better effects if they were given 3-4k IUs every day

Megadosing D3 on the rare occasion is similar to gradually taking normal amounts as far as serum levels go. It's common to see in studies. You wanna be careful doing it without supervision obviously but I don't see why there would be a difference in a study if the hypothesis is that deficiency is causing the sleep problems.

As far as the study goes, it was significant at a p 0.05 level so will wait for replication.

Re: Clinical trial shows that the use of Vitamin D supplement improves sleep quality

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50,000 IUs every 15 days for 8 weeks. I wonder if it would have better effects if they were given 3-4k IUs every day

I keep reading about these “IU”s on HN, what on earth are they? Here in the uk you just buy “Vitamin D” and take one pill per day. No fine-tuning, unless you need specialised therapy perhaps.

International units. OTC quantities tend to be quite low, e.g 300-400 IUs, which aren't sufficient unless you're also getting daily sunlight not through a window. 1000-2000 IU is better - widely regarded as safe and no cases I've ever read of of hypervitaminosis, but it's above usual OTC doses. 4000+ daily is pushing it and I have read of cases of toxicity above that, but if you're struggling to get serum levels up then perhaps it's needed.

Re: Clinical trial shows that the use of Vitamin D supplement improves sleep quality

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My vitamin D level is only optimal when taking an average of 11000 IU / day (D3 + K2). It hasn't improved my sleep quality. As an example, I woke up at 3:30 am this morning and feel like I haven't slept at all.

What time of day are you taking it?

Anecdotal, but several accounts I heard from people I know (and some I’ve read — even in this HN discussion, but the most n=1 scientific is gwern) indicate you need to take the vitamin D early in the day or it would harm your sleep quality. It also makes sense biologically, given that you need sunlight to generate it yourself.

Again, anecdotal - but detrimental to my sleep if taken after midday. If I can’t take it until 10am, I skip that day

Re: Clinical trial shows that the use of Vitamin D supplement improves sleep quality

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50,000 IUs every 15 days for 8 weeks. I wonder if it would have better effects if they were given 3-4k IUs every day

I keep reading about these “IU”s on HN, what on earth are they? Here in the uk you just buy “Vitamin D” and take one pill per day. No fine-tuning, unless you need specialised therapy perhaps.

Some figures to provide some perspective on the wild numbers thrown around in other comments. Recommended daily doses for adults for some vitamins are:

• Vitamin A: 5,000 IU (upper limit of 10,000 IU)

• Vitamin D: 600 IU

• Vitamin E: 22.4 IU

Re: Clinical trial shows that the use of Vitamin D supplement improves sleep quality

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Totally anecdotal, but I went through a period of insomnia a few years age. It would take several hours to get to sleep. I realised that I had recently started taking vitamin D supplements just before bed and figured it might be connected. Changed to take the supplements in the morning and the insomnia went away.

Apparently D3 inhibits production of melatonin. Can't remember where I read this so not a hugely useful comment but I promise I didn't just make it up! Anecodtally, I've also experienced similar issues taking 1000 IU D3 before bed and having trouble sleeping. I moved the dose to the morning and Boom!, good sleep. Edit: Here is the study. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23665342/ - only a single study but still intere…

I take 2,000 IU of Vitamin D3 nightly right before bed and have no trouble sleeping.

Re: Clinical trial shows that the use of Vitamin D supplement improves sleep quality

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep reading about these “IU”s on HN, what on earth are they? Here in the uk you just buy “Vitamin D” and take one pill per day. No fine-tuning, unless you need specialised therapy perhaps.

International units. OTC quantities tend to be quite low, e.g 300-400 IUs, which aren't sufficient unless you're also getting daily sunlight not through a window. 1000-2000 IU is better - widely regarded as safe and no cases I've ever read of of hypervitaminosis, but it's above usual OTC doses. 4000+ daily is pushing it and I have read of cases of toxicity above that, but if you're struggling to get serum levels up t…

Honestly, OTC quantities vary depending on what is legal where you live. It has been 8-9 years since I lived in the US but nevertheless: At the time, you could buy 1000-2000iu strengths. I worked at a large pharmacy chain and stocked vitamins weekly.

Then I moved to Norway. One strength is sold in most stores - 400iu per tablet. You might be able to buy stronger in the pharmacy, but I had to have a prescription for a higher strength when I had low levels.

And to be fair, 2 of those store tablets keeps my levels high enough. So while 400 might be inadequate, 800 certainly isn't. Even without enough sunlight: I literally cannot get enough during the winter because the sun simply isn't strong enough when it happens to be up.

Re: Clinical trial shows that the use of Vitamin D supplement improves sleep quality

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50,000 IUs every 15 days for 8 weeks. I wonder if it would have better effects if they were given 3-4k IUs every day

I keep reading about these “IU”s on HN, what on earth are they? Here in the uk you just buy “Vitamin D” and take one pill per day. No fine-tuning, unless you need specialised therapy perhaps.

Here in UK, like everywhere else, Vitamin D dosage is measured in IU.

You probably never noticed it, or your pills have low-strength dosages (400 IU), which are quite common to find in pharmacies, and personally I don't even bother with those.

Re: Clinical trial shows that the use of Vitamin D supplement improves sleep quality

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50,000 IUs every 15 days for 8 weeks. I wonder if it would have better effects if they were given 3-4k IUs every day

I keep reading about these “IU”s on HN, what on earth are they? Here in the uk you just buy “Vitamin D” and take one pill per day. No fine-tuning, unless you need specialised therapy perhaps.

Eh as someone also in the UK this seems false. If you check the packaging it will (in my experience) always give you the dose is IU. I know someone recently prescribed Vitamin D, and again, it was a specific dose. If you take it as part of a multi-vitamin dosage may not be made as clear.

The NHS provides some guidance on doses here: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vitamins-and-minerals/vitamin-...

Re: Clinical trial shows that the use of Vitamin D supplement improves sleep quality

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

International units. OTC quantities tend to be quite low, e.g 300-400 IUs, which aren't sufficient unless you're also getting daily sunlight not through a window. 1000-2000 IU is better - widely regarded as safe and no cases I've ever read of of hypervitaminosis, but it's above usual OTC doses. 4000+ daily is pushing it and I have read of cases of toxicity above that, but if you're struggling to get serum levels up t…

Honestly, OTC quantities vary depending on what is legal where you live. It has been 8-9 years since I lived in the US but nevertheless: At the time, you could buy 1000-2000iu strengths. I worked at a large pharmacy chain and stocked vitamins weekly. Then I moved to Norway. One strength is sold in most stores - 400iu per tablet. You might be able to buy stronger in the pharmacy, but I had to have a prescription for a…

It would depend on individual ability to metabolize D3 and amount of outdoors sunlight and the extent that local food is fortified with D3. So everyone's situation is unique.

I'm confident that 2,000 IU daily is safe, though.

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