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Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor

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Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor

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I think the title is misleading. The number of long covid cases is overblown. But, and the professor agrees, long covid can be very real. But the name `long covid` is also a little misleading. A lot of virus infections can shake up your body so you will need a long time to recover. A great example is the Epstein Barr virus: very contagious and it can take months or even years to recover from it.

The symptoms of long covid include different symptoms so naming it is valid.

Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor

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Well, I'm not sure what my sangha member had but she was perfectly healthy, a very active outdoors person, then she got coronavirus, and then was basically bed-ridden for about 10 months. Basically completely weak and chronically fatigued for that period. At least, I am quite sure that her long-term symptoms were due to coronavirus. I'm sure there are many false attributions though, as is bound to happen with such a…

I’d feel a lot better about this if people stopped making concrete assertions about their hunches however well-informed.

For someone in his position to say long covid is overblown and usually something else without any explicit diagnosis for those cases is no more responsible than the “it’s just a flu” brigade have been since this started.

Literally everything has become so poisoned by misinformation that we can’t even present real science and reviewed data without feeling the need to represent probabilities as certainties for fear of the conspiracy mob running with it, which it seems like is happening here, and I think is even more dangerous.

The rest of us aren’t listening to the whackadoodles on Facebook, but we’re certainly paying attention to credible scientists.

I’m sure it’s infuriating for the science community that you have to clear a really high bar of evidence and critical examination of data before making an assertion, whereas Karen or Chad just write whatever stupid and demonstrably impossible nonsense they like on Facebook without a care in the world.

The morons don’t have standards. It sucks. But resorting to their tactics, even a little, is a really slippery slope.

Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor

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Not had covid, but about 2 years ago had a Parvovirus-B19 infection which triggered a reactive arthritis, which means 2 years later I'm still having steroid injections and my joints are more or less in pain. The medical summary is basically "sucks to be you I guess" but it's a semi-common side effect of a virus infection. So yeah, all I want to say is that virus infections are not a joke, even if you got through one…

I had a very bad flu in 2017 or so and could not smell nor taste for at least 4 months after I had it.

Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor

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The Times and Telepgraph have been minimising Covid since day one, even providing a platform for groups such as "us for them".

Right now there are no mitigations for Covid in UK schools.

One of the things safer schools campaigners are pointing out is the risk of long Covid (as well as hospitalisations etc).

Example of Covid in one area of the UK https://mobile.twitter.com/DmodosCutter/status/1445303921300...

Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor

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Nothing new here. 90%+ of people don't understand that either they're suffering depression from isolating from other humans, or in cases of healthcare, symptoms don't suddenly appear months after a disease or vaccine for hundreds of people like some episode of House.

The 1% of legit cases are being let down because were being dragged down by the same mass hysteria that linked vaccines and autism.

Chances are this isn't even covid related but an abnormal autoimmune response I'd bet, but given I'm only trained in statistical analysis I could be wrong.

People are always look for something to blame and given the hysteria it's not shocking they are blaming the magical bioweapon that will catch you in your sleep...

Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor

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If only half of the people that think they have it (5%) actually have it. Doesn’t that still mean that 2.5% of all COVID cases suffers from persistent issues? That’s still a fairly high incidence rate. At least to the extend that we can’t really ignore it.

The article states, "The ONS survey, published last week, found that 5 per cent of people who had tested positive for Covid reported at least one symptom 12 to 16 weeks after their infection." Only 5% of all COVID cases report persistent symptoms. And 3.4% of the general population report the same symptoms. Edit: Comment this is in reply to originally had 50%, now changed to 5%.

"only 5%" is one in twenty.

Right now the UK is getting something like 30,000 new cases a day.

This adds up to a lot, last time I checked the UK was only behind India on total cases.

For whatever reason the people running the UKs actions are doing the opposite of protecting people.

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