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YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#11
Reminds me of a scene 'Killed for Reading' from the movie Equilibrium.

Partridge: Don't you see, Preston? It's gone. Everything that makes us what we are, traded away.

John Preston: There's no war. No murder.

Partridge: What is it you think we do?

John Preston: No. You've been with me. You've seen how it can be, the jealousy. Rage.

Partridge: A heavy cost. I pay it gladly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJf9Pf9rjO4

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#12
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The fact that people continue to be surprised by actions like this, betrays a lack of understanding of how content moderation works, and a willful lack of education on the part of YouTube. This video was taken down because 2 or 3 people reported it in short succession. Those reports flagged it for review by a human moderator, who removed it. If it had never been reported, it would have stayed up. If no one ever repor…

> The 14 years it was up doesn't mean YouTube reviewed it previously and decided to keep it.

You cannot possibly know, unless you work on YT moderation in Google. Also, moderation rules might vary over the years, so it might have even been checked once per year and survived for 14 years, til now. The real issue here is that nobody outside an internal Google team has voted on these policies.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#13

This isn't a great specific example (it's "just" a meme and not even a particularly culturally significant one in the grand scheme of things), but in general this is why projects like youtube-dl are important. It might not be glamorous, and it might be a little stupid, but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it. Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store…

I also lost access to a most beautiful poetry recitation from an older fellow who has passed. In hindsight, I wish I was more active in saving videos.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#14
One of my favourite memes of all time, so it's sad for the original video to be removed from Youtube, however, I am confident it'll still be available elsewhere, and, of course, as part of thousands of existing meme compilation videos.

Sure, the Youtube team removed it, but ultimately, they're a private company, right? Aren't private companies allowed to moderate kind of however they want based on their own terms of service? They have a "graphic and violent content policy" that they're allowed to enforce. I always found the distinction between a private company's ToS and "the public good" a little tricky to understand.

Anyway, maybe this news will, in a tiny way, help other online video-sharing projects like PeerTube or Vimeo.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#15

Here is my open letter to people working for Google: Dear googlers: Quit. You’ll make plenty elsewhere; just stop ruining the Internet please.

Don't quit! I'd rather have good, honest people working at Google, instead of them quitting Google. What would Google be like if no good people worked there?

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#16

Here is my open letter to people working for Google: Dear googlers: Quit. You’ll make plenty elsewhere; just stop ruining the Internet please.

Even if everyone quit, they could hold the ship steady and hire anyone else in the world that wants to make millions of dollars, because we know consumer habits will not change.

I could even imagine people wanting to work for Google to actively harm society as a form of Cold War. Because of this, it is probably better for people to stay and fight for good, but I might be wrong.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#17
Google would destroy "Liberty Leading the People" for depicting violent content if they could.

What's the line here? A scripted video depicting one friend punching another gets taken down, but MMA fights, movie scenes of executions, and Jackass clips stay up?

It's dangerous how much of our culture is in the hands of private companies who can restrict or deny your ability to view that piece of culture. They do so on a whim and you have no recourse.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#18

This is truly wrong. Far from censorship, this is a field test of memory-holing. Deleting a part of the history of the Internet (yes, this silly little nonsense video is now part of Modern Culture) is a Rubicon I'm shocked YouTube has the temerity to cross. I can't wait to see what more conventional history they'll delete. For now, note the conscious blowing-off, on YouTube's part, of all the re-uploads. Will they al…

I think you are confusing Youtube with a NGO. Google is a for profit company. Their mission is to make money, not to archive the internet. They are not your friend. Nor anybody's friend.

See, I'd have thought that everybody tacitly understood that YouTube's scale has redefined presentation of videos over the Internet and as a consequence is the premier video archive for all of Humanity. This doesn't erase their fiduciary duties, but it does attenuate them -- archiving and presenting videos (to show ads) is actually how the money is made. But I'll bite -- I'm a credulous idiot who's confused YouTube for an NGO. You are a wise cynic who's come to correct me.

>Their mission is to make money, not to archive the internet.

So how did deleting this make YouTube money?

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#19
To be fair, it is violence. The guy took it like a champ, and quipped something funny which I found the reaction to be really hillarious. But the internet, including MMA sports and other things have really de-sensitized people on real violence. I for one can't say I like real violence.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#20

Here is my open letter to people working for Google: Dear googlers: Quit. You’ll make plenty elsewhere; just stop ruining the Internet please.

Don't quit! I'd rather have good, honest people working at Google, instead of them quitting Google. What would Google be like if no good people worked there?

Isn't this already the case?
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