From the article: > We (W3C) can no longer take a wait-and-see or neutral position on technologies with egregious energy use. We must instead firmly oppose such proof-of-work technologies including to the best of our ability blocking them from being incorporated or enabled (even optionally) by any specifications we develop. If anything we should pursue the opposite: develop specifications that supersede existing spec…
Response to 'Call for Review: Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) v1.0'
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Re: Response to 'Call for Review: Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) v1.0'
#12From the article: > We (W3C) can no longer take a wait-and-see or neutral position on technologies with egregious energy use. We must instead firmly oppose such proof-of-work technologies including to the best of our ability blocking them from being incorporated or enabled (even optionally) by any specifications we develop. If anything we should pursue the opposite: develop specifications that supersede existing spec…
What are these people smoking? DID has nothing to do with PoW, it's merely one of the methods you could use to timestamp when a signature was made. There are plenty of other ways (centralized too, since that's probably what Microsoft and Google care about) to do this, so not sure why sustainability is being brought up as a counter-point to the DID specification.
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#13First time I've seen "s12y" (sustainability) and while I'm usually averse to new buzzwords I quite like the association with "i18n" (internationalization) and "a11y" (accessibility). Somehow feels like the trinity of responsible software ("responsible" probably isn't the right word here).
Re: Response to 'Call for Review: Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) v1.0'
#14One of my acquaintainces at Microsoft worked for years to get this through: https://identity.foundation/sidetree/spec/ DIDs built as a Sidetree on top of Bitcoin. At least they don’t require everything being on-chain, but securing with proof-of-work is unfortunate.
PoW is the only proof mechanism that has seen real world use for a significant length of time.
When you have a distributed system, it really isn’t hard to “retain” information in a byzantine fault tolerant way. Proof of Work is mostly used to help with liveness, not persistence.
Re: Response to 'Call for Review: Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) v1.0'
#15There should be standardized education in this field if standards communities themselves can be so reactionary, equally missing that decentralized identifiers have nothing to do with blockchain, and even if they did that they have nothing to do with POW.
Re: Response to 'Call for Review: Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) v1.0'
#16One of my acquaintainces at Microsoft worked for years to get this through: https://identity.foundation/sidetree/spec/ DIDs built as a Sidetree on top of Bitcoin. At least they don’t require everything being on-chain, but securing with proof-of-work is unfortunate.
PoW is the only proof mechanism that has seen real world use for a significant length of time.
Re: Response to 'Call for Review: Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) v1.0'
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#18Self-Sovereign Identity and DIDs are a very fast moving train. People argue that in the early internet days there was a similar competition between new protocols(compare with DID methods) before we arrive in our todays HTTP(S)-only world. Similarly DID methods will probably consolidate to a handful within few years and DID Core is only a first step to get a minimal common denominator. Also its questionable if Microso…
Re: Response to 'Call for Review: Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) v1.0'
#19It's interesting to me the amount of energy people spend on convincing themselves that a technology (POW) that didn't even exist 12 years ago and ran on home PCs up until 7 years ago is somehow responsible for wildfires in California or deforestation in Brazil. DID has little to do with Bitcoin. I don't even know if it's the best option, but clearly the lack of decentralized identity on the web has been significant i…
I'm not sure why years of time matters. Rapid growth is extremely common in technology.
How much time did you need to spend convincing yourself that a microblogging website that didn't exist 12 years before 2016 and was constantly crashing 7 years before 2016 had become a major influence on world politics, up to the level of the US presidency? Hopefully not more than a few seconds.
How much time would it take to convince you that one BTC, which did not exist 12 years ago and was worth $300 7 years ago, hit more than 200 times that amount this year? Does it seem impossible?
The ecological argument against Bitcoin-style consensus is short and fairly obvious from Satoshi's paper. The innovation in that paper (compared to existing techniques like Merkle trees) was the ability to stop double-spend attacks by "mining" chains of transactions. This requires making sure that no single participant - not even the financially-meddling central banks that Bitcoin is supposed to provide an alternative too, and the might of their governments - can mine at a rate higher than the network. This immediately produces an incentive for both the network to make use of as much computational capacity as possible to keep itself safe, and for any attacker to amass enough computational capacity to mount an attack.
The incentive goes up as the block reward goes up, which it has been doing in terms of real value (e.g., number of Big Macs you can buy with a reward), even though the reward denominated in BTC goes down over time.
Therefore, Bitcoin-style consensus, if it works, is necessarily a major consumer of worldwide computational power, and as long as computers require energy, it is a major consumer of worldwide energy, which isn't really a thing we have an excess of.
That's the entire argument. It doesn't take you very much time - unless, of course, you're incentivized to keep trying to find counterarguments.
Re: Response to 'Call for Review: Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) v1.0'
#20Proof of Work (POW) solutions can be equally deployed on other consensus protocols that don't have unbounded energy demands, given the ways the platforms function. Proof of Stake (POS), Delegated Proof of Stake (DPOS), etc. There should be standardized education in this field if standards communities themselves can be so reactionary, equally missing that decentralized identifiers have nothing to do with blockchain, a…