I'm curious why people consider DiP to be a bad book? I personally can't defend it since I haven't read it
Dive Into Python 3 (online book)
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#12What's interesting is that according to the author Mark Pilgrim: Python 3 is a commercial disaster. In 2010Q3 I had negative sales of DiP3. More people returned it than bought it. I'm considering retro-fitting the book's content to Python 2.7 and re-releasing it as "Dive Into Python 2." Seriously. http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/f545e/i_am_a_fourtime_...
DiP3 is not a very good book. (Neither was DiP.) I don't know how relevant that is to sales, though, but considering that some of the bigger Python groups actively recommend against it, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an impact on sales from that alone. Edit: I don't recommend learning Python from a book. I recommend http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ if you know a programming language already, or http://learnpyth…
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DiP3 is not a very good book. (Neither was DiP.) I don't know how relevant that is to sales, though, but considering that some of the bigger Python groups actively recommend against it, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an impact on sales from that alone. Edit: I don't recommend learning Python from a book. I recommend http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ if you know a programming language already, or http://learnpyth…
What Python book do you recommend for someone who wants to start learning the language? Thanks.
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#14I learned quite a few cool Python tricks from DiP and it was the first book that got me excited about programming. I remember reading the chapter on list comprehensions and thinking they were the coolest thing ever (and I still love 'em!). Whether or not all the code is 'pythonic' or uses deprecated methods, it was still worth reading in my mind.
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What Python book do you recommend for someone who wants to start learning the language? Thanks.
Learn Python The Hard Way.
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#16Regarding DIP3. As someone pointed out that the new book has not gained much traction since its release in late 2009. But I have a feeling this might have changed now with v2.7 release with which most of the v3 features have been back ported to 2.x already and I am wondering if it's actually safe to read this book while using v2.7.2?
Many of its major features have also been backported to the backwards-compatible
Python 2.6 and 2.7. [1]
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_PythonRe: Dive Into Python 3 (online book)
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Learn Python The Hard Way.
Does it cover Python 3? I cannot tell from reading http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ - maybe I missed something.
"A programmer may try to get you to install Python 3 and learn that. You should tell them, "When all of the python code on your computer is Python 3, then I'll try to learn it." That should keep them busy for about 10 years."
http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ex0.html (under Warnings for Beginners)
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#18What's interesting is that according to the author Mark Pilgrim: Python 3 is a commercial disaster. In 2010Q3 I had negative sales of DiP3. More people returned it than bought it. I'm considering retro-fitting the book's content to Python 2.7 and re-releasing it as "Dive Into Python 2." Seriously. http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/f545e/i_am_a_fourtime_...
DiP3 is not a very good book. (Neither was DiP.) I don't know how relevant that is to sales, though, but considering that some of the bigger Python groups actively recommend against it, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an impact on sales from that alone. Edit: I don't recommend learning Python from a book. I recommend http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ if you know a programming language already, or http://learnpyth…
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#19Also, having learned Python 3 first, I can't stand porting things to Python 2. It's like taking a final draft of an idea and trying to turn it into a rough draft.
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#20I'm curious why people consider DiP to be a bad book? I personally can't defend it since I haven't read it