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Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by fiddlerwoaroof »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #9
fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #6

One thing I really dislike about Fediverse services is that their landing pages are always about joining/signing up. For Twitter-like applications this might be ok. But for something like YouTube, I definitely want to browse the content a bit before signing up.

> One thing I really dislike about Fediverse services is that their landing pages are always about joining/signing up. That's because their “landing pages” (project advertisement websites) aren't instances. The home page of any instance (e.g. https://diode.zone/ ) will show you the content visible from that instance.

This isn’t true of Mastodon or Pixelfed instances (or wasn’t when I tried running one).

But, if you’re going to be called “join peertube” you need to have the sort of content that makes people want to join: copy about what peertube is + a list of instances isn’t that.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by chairhairair »

The channel in this post has 20 YouTube subscribers and no more than a couple thousand total YouTube views.

The trending page on PeerTube shows a list of videos with at most a few dozen views.

Is PeerTube supremely unpopular (seems to have been launched several years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube), or am I missing something? Does it really have an order of magnitude more Github stars (https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube) than daily viewers?

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by freshthought »

chairhairair wrote: post #12

The channel in this post has 20 YouTube subscribers and no more than a couple thousand total YouTube views. The trending page on PeerTube shows a list of videos with at most a few dozen views. Is PeerTube supremely unpopular (seems to have been launched several years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube), or am I missing something? Does it really have an order of magnitude more Github stars ( https://github.com/Chocob…

Perhaps the most notable fact is how upvoted this article is. Shows you how much people want to believe, maybe?

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by mraudiobook_com »

chairhairair wrote: post #12

The channel in this post has 20 YouTube subscribers and no more than a couple thousand total YouTube views. The trending page on PeerTube shows a list of videos with at most a few dozen views. Is PeerTube supremely unpopular (seems to have been launched several years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube), or am I missing something? Does it really have an order of magnitude more Github stars ( https://github.com/Chocob…

Yes. Amazingly very few seemsl to care about decentralizing the web and monitary systems.

Arguably the most important invention since the internet itself ALL the big companies have huge incentive to kill the movement because they can't make money off it.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by ShamelessC »

chairhairair wrote: post #12

The channel in this post has 20 YouTube subscribers and no more than a couple thousand total YouTube views. The trending page on PeerTube shows a list of videos with at most a few dozen views. Is PeerTube supremely unpopular (seems to have been launched several years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube), or am I missing something? Does it really have an order of magnitude more Github stars ( https://github.com/Chocob…

> The channel in this post has 20 YouTube subscribers and no more than a couple thousand total YouTube views.

...that's quite a lot even on YouTube, no? I always assumed the videos recommended for their sheer popularity were a "top 1%" sort of situation.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by Timpy »

chairhairair wrote: post #12

The channel in this post has 20 YouTube subscribers and no more than a couple thousand total YouTube views. The trending page on PeerTube shows a list of videos with at most a few dozen views. Is PeerTube supremely unpopular (seems to have been launched several years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube), or am I missing something? Does it really have an order of magnitude more Github stars ( https://github.com/Chocob…

Maybe the idea of PeerTube is a lot nice than the user experience? I can't say, I haven't tried PeerTube. I feel like this is pretty common when it comes to avoiding big tech though. When Github was bought out by Microsoft I went all in on Gitlab, but alas, the company I work for now uses Github. The sheer gravity of it pulled me back in.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by judge2020 »

chairhairair wrote: post #12

The channel in this post has 20 YouTube subscribers and no more than a couple thousand total YouTube views. The trending page on PeerTube shows a list of videos with at most a few dozen views. Is PeerTube supremely unpopular (seems to have been launched several years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube), or am I missing something? Does it really have an order of magnitude more Github stars ( https://github.com/Chocob…

A lot of people see the usefulness of PeerTube but don't move because the creators they watch are on YouTube. It's the same for the creators, though - they can't move off of YouTube entirely, because none of their viewers will go to a PeerTube instance just to watch that one creator. Thus nobody moves to PT unless there are other factors (like extremist creators moving because their videos keep getting removed by YT).

Another major problem that prevents creators from hosting on PeerTube is that there are no ads - many see direct-from-YouTube revenue driven by Premium views/Ad views generate a significant portion of their income. Even Linus Tech Tips, with their audience of gamers who mostly running an ad blocker, sees YouTube generate 26% of their profit[0], almost exactly as much as they get from sponsors spots in their videos. If everyone were to move to PT, we'd either need an intermediary for ads, or only creators with audiences that could afford to personally finance them (via Patreon or similar) would be able to survive and make a living off of running their channel.

0: https://youtu.be/-zt57TWkTF4?t=391

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #11
wizzwizz4 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One thing I really dislike about Fediverse services is that their landing pages are always about joining/signing up. That's because their “landing pages” (project advertisement websites) aren't instances. The home page of any instance (e.g. https://diode.zone/ ) will show you the content visible from that instance.

This isn’t true of Mastodon or Pixelfed instances (or wasn’t when I tried running one). But, if you’re going to be called “join peertube” you need to have the sort of content that makes people want to join: copy about what peertube is + a list of instances isn’t that.

Most Mastodon instances have it a single click away from the sign-up page. (But yes, I agree. Mastodon isn't great, even though it's popular.)

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by jstx1 »

I was wondering who they were and why they were self-saboting. Then I saw that it's a channel with 20 subscribers on youtube with view numbers in the single digits for some videos. So somebody went from not being watched on youtube, to not being watched on peertube.

How did this even make it to the front page?

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