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The Big Escape: How the Ultra-Wealthy Avoid Paying Taxes and How to Fix It [pdf]

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Re: The Big Escape: How the Ultra-Wealthy Avoid Paying Taxes and How to Fix It [pdf]

#11

Sigh... Wealth taxes don't work. Almost every single European country that had a wealth tax repealed theirs. The fact that Senator Warren is continuing to try to push a wealth tax shows how poor her policies are.

It's not because they repealed them that they don't work. It could also be a symptom of the current times in which wealthy people became extremely good at influencing politics to reinforce their position.

Re: The Big Escape: How the Ultra-Wealthy Avoid Paying Taxes and How to Fix It [pdf]

#12
post #3

> In 2018, Warren Buffett had a net worth of $84 billion. The effective tax rate on his mountain of wealth? 0.006%—orders of magnitude lower than the tax rates paid by most middle-class families. What tax rate do middle-class families pay on their net worth? 0% I believe, since we don't have wealth taxes?

To be fair though, we do have property taxes, and many middle-class families have a substantial fraction of their net worth tied up in their house and other real property.

Re: The Big Escape: How the Ultra-Wealthy Avoid Paying Taxes and How to Fix It [pdf]

#13

Sigh... Wealth taxes don't work. Almost every single European country that had a wealth tax repealed theirs. The fact that Senator Warren is continuing to try to push a wealth tax shows how poor her policies are.

America forces people to renounce citizenship to avoid high taxes (unlike every other country in the world where you can just leave the country), so the people who flee Warren's wealth tax will not ever be coming back.

Re: The Big Escape: How the Ultra-Wealthy Avoid Paying Taxes and How to Fix It [pdf]

#14

Sigh... Wealth taxes don't work. Almost every single European country that had a wealth tax repealed theirs. The fact that Senator Warren is continuing to try to push a wealth tax shows how poor her policies are.

It depends how the wealth tax is implemented. European wealth taxes were primarily on capital like stocks, which are extremely easy to move, even easier than income.

A wealth tax on land (an LVT) is literally impossible to avoid however since you can't move the land.

Re: The Big Escape: How the Ultra-Wealthy Avoid Paying Taxes and How to Fix It [pdf]

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post #3

> In 2018, Warren Buffett had a net worth of $84 billion. The effective tax rate on his mountain of wealth? 0.006%—orders of magnitude lower than the tax rates paid by most middle-class families. What tax rate do middle-class families pay on their net worth? 0% I believe, since we don't have wealth taxes?

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Re: The Big Escape: How the Ultra-Wealthy Avoid Paying Taxes and How to Fix It [pdf]

#16

Sigh... Wealth taxes don't work. Almost every single European country that had a wealth tax repealed theirs. The fact that Senator Warren is continuing to try to push a wealth tax shows how poor her policies are.

Yeah, not taxing the rich also does not work. See the trillion Dollar tax break Pres. Trump and the GOP implemented. The savings were supposed to somehow trickle down to the "lower decks", but this has proven not to happen.

Meanwhile the ultra rich are getting ultra richer and the rest is getting poorer.

So lets globally coordinated tax the rich for a while in a way that they can not evade their net wealth to some other country and lets see how well that works.

Re: The Big Escape: How the Ultra-Wealthy Avoid Paying Taxes and How to Fix It [pdf]

#17

Sigh... Wealth taxes don't work. Almost every single European country that had a wealth tax repealed theirs. The fact that Senator Warren is continuing to try to push a wealth tax shows how poor her policies are.

Can you point me in the right direction for more info on this? I'm curious about what some of the problems were, and why they needed to be repealed.

I'm also curious what you think a sound tax policy would look like as an alternative to what Warren is proposing.

Re: The Big Escape: How the Ultra-Wealthy Avoid Paying Taxes and How to Fix It [pdf]

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post #3

> In 2018, Warren Buffett had a net worth of $84 billion. The effective tax rate on his mountain of wealth? 0.006%—orders of magnitude lower than the tax rates paid by most middle-class families. What tax rate do middle-class families pay on their net worth? 0% I believe, since we don't have wealth taxes?

Is inflation kind of wealth tax?

Re: The Big Escape: How the Ultra-Wealthy Avoid Paying Taxes and How to Fix It [pdf]

#20
Okay I read this.

It gives no details on what loopholes would be closed, and then conflated that with tax cheats and that a well funded IRS will solve both.

A well funded IRS will just be rubber stamping the compliant tax reducing methods faster. Although most constituent's experience with the IRS is retroactive and adversarial, wealthier people's experience with the IRS is pre-emptive and collaborative. It is a totally different experience.

I don't get the impression that the people and organizations identified here would ever be subject to these taxes, even if the law was passed without any debate.

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