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The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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These are also good reasons to avoid using .so domains. You can also expect mail delivery issues and blanket corporate firewall blocks on .so. The rising prominence of https://notion.so is changing the cultural situation somewhat, but very slowly.

(Edit: I work at Notion)

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. Why are people afraid to use the real term for this? It's called censorship. Your provider is silently censoring your text messages. In peacetime. You can't expect it to improve when that's no longer the case.

Let's say I have a rule to block emails that mention "bitcoin" from arriving in my inbox. Is that censorship?

Let's say, so many people have set up a similar rule that the email provider offers a quick way of adding that very rule. Is that censorship?

Let's say, so many people use that "quick way" that the email provider turns it on by default. Is that censorship?

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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post #11

These are also good reasons to avoid using .so domains. You can also expect mail delivery issues and blanket corporate firewall blocks on .so. The rising prominence of https://notion.so is changing the cultural situation somewhat, but very slowly. (Edit: I work at Notion)

Notion said they were switching to .com "as soon as our engineering team has the bandwidth", but it's been a year so they might've changed their minds on disrupting the branding

https://www.reddit.com/r/Notion/comments/f6x9mk/why_the_so_d...

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. Why are people afraid to use the real term for this? It's called censorship. Your provider is silently censoring your text messages. In peacetime. You can't expect it to improve when that's no longer the case.

It's spam protection. Which I guess is a form of censorship, especially in a medium like SMS that has no built-in way to mark something as spam and still deliver it.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. Why are people afraid to use the real term for this? It's called censorship. Your provider is silently censoring your text messages. In peacetime. You can't expect it to improve when that's no longer the case.

Censorship is part of an agenda. This is not censorship, and you calling that waters the phrase down. If I have a poorly constructed email filter, is that censorship? I wouldn't say so, and this example is more in line with that than with any active censorship.

So, in short, no one is afraid to call something censorship, I think they are just waiting for the right time. When it is applicable.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. This is wild to me. Tested it out myself and I couldn't send an SMS with a spot.xyz link to/from Google Voice T-Mobile. And no "failed delivery" notice either, just a silent failure. And yet I still get so many texts that are obviously spam or ph…

I have this same problem with "obscure" .net domains. My text messages are silently dropped.

The only work around I found is to not include http://, just use the bare domain.

Personally, I find this behavior of my SMS provider reprehensible.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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I have my personal site on an xyz domain because it's the only thing I could justify spending on. I don't intend to earn from it, it's just a static site, and it's significantly cheaper than anything else. I'll probably stick with it.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. Why are people afraid to use the real term for this? It's called censorship. Your provider is silently censoring your text messages. In peacetime. You can't expect it to improve when that's no longer the case.

It's spam protection. Which I guess is a form of censorship, especially in a medium like SMS that has no built-in way to mark something as spam and still deliver it.

I'd argue its not censorship. If I don't pick up your call because I don't recognize the number, or my phone is on silent, is that censorship? Lacking an agenda or a message I'd hesitate to call anything censorship.

Like, without a censor actually redacting things or controlling the conversation, can it really be called censorship?

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. Why are people afraid to use the real term for this? It's called censorship. Your provider is silently censoring your text messages. In peacetime. You can't expect it to improve when that's no longer the case.

Censorship has strong connotations of authoritarian regimes with political motivations. When they're doing it in peacetime with (I believe) a genuine goal to benefit the user by removing spam messages or by making abbreviated URLs like 'spot.xyz' clickable (even if that parser is broken, written by someone who only expected .com/.net/.org), it's just called parsing.

In much the same way, propaganda is just advertising with negative connotations, and a cult is just a religion with negative connotations. Calling all advertising propaganda or all religious people cultists is not likely to win people to your cause.

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