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9/11 changed architecture and urban design forever

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Re: 9/11 changed architecture and urban design forever

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I'd say the Oklahoma City bombing had a far greater impact in civil engineering and architecture than 9/11. The Oklahoma City bombing jump-started an awful lot of research into new topics such as progressive collapse, quantification and classification of dynamic loads from explosives, structural modeling techniques, and even design of passive defenses to mitigate the impact of these structural actions. Not so much 9/11 in general and the twin towers attack in particular. I invite anyone to run a few queries on Google scholar on the topic to get an idea of how the Oklahoma City bombing pops up in quite a few papers evem up to this day.

Re: 9/11 changed architecture and urban design forever

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In the UK we had the IRA bombings[0] up until the mid-1990s which changed architecture and urban design. If you worked in the financial district in London, for example, you would have had to pass through the "ring of steel"[1] to get to work, none of the buildings had large car parks underneath (that's one of the things that surprised me on my first visit to New York - some of the tall buildings had several floors of…

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we used to have toilets on the tube, but the IRA kept on sticking bombs in them.

the "troubles" were utterly destructive, and left permanent scars in the UK. However it nothing to the sheer destruction that occurred in NI/6 counties.

The Financial Times only recently(~2010) began receiving post at their HQ because the amount of suspicious shit that used to mailed to them and other press outlets. All of the glass was laminated, so that should a lorry bomb be detonated there, it wouldn't shred everyone behind them.

for the UK, terrorism was always something to do with the troubles all the way up until well past the iraq war. London was neutral ground, much to the annoyance of the rest of the five eyes.

Re: 9/11 changed architecture and urban design forever

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wow i cant beleve my comments are getting censored and deleted like this. i only pointed out that the official explaination of building collapse violates the laws of physics.

its not censored my dear, its down voted.

However I would kindly direct you to specify which grade of steel you are thinking doesn't behave like this. Especially as the steel used in pre-stressed concrete is very different from the steel used in aviation.

Re: 9/11 changed architecture and urban design forever

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wow i cant beleve my comments are getting censored and deleted like this. i only pointed out that the official explaination of building collapse violates the laws of physics.

It's a tired argument and irrelevant, the type of comment discouraged by the site guidelines you may not have read.

Re: 9/11 changed architecture and urban design forever

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post #8

I think it's funny how some of these bureaus take themselves too seriously. ISIL probably doesn't care much about the new ATF headquarters, it's not a cultural landmark.

ATF is likely more concerned by a domestic terror attack.

And as usual they're fighting the last war. The (western) world has moved on from the fairly indiscriminate bombings of the 70s-90s. Targeted attacks either against specific persons (e.g. 2017 baseball shooting) or against members of groups (e.g. Summer 2020 street violence) are the New Hotness(TM).

I'm not sure what tractable measures they could take (that's not my job to figure out and if it was I wouldn't do it for free) but I feel very confident saying that whoever or whatever group next takes a swing at government will likely do so outside of whatever measures protect the workplace.

Re: 9/11 changed architecture and urban design forever

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wow i cant beleve my comments are getting censored and deleted like this. i only pointed out that the official explaination of building collapse violates the laws of physics.

Oh no, all I did was spread bullshit conspiracy theories, I wonder why I’m being downvoted!!!!

Re: 9/11 changed architecture and urban design forever

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Among the other things it changed forever: travel, immigration, privacy, government excesses, etc.

We are amidst a deep shift in the social, cultural and legislative background in the post-Covid world. The mass movement of people is declining, economies are getting more localised. Not all of it is bad per se, but we probably need another 10 years to assess and compare the "pre-" and "post-" Covid world.

Re: 9/11 changed architecture and urban design forever

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post #16

wow i cant beleve my comments are getting censored and deleted like this. i only pointed out that the official explaination of building collapse violates the laws of physics.

It's a tired argument and irrelevant, the type of comment discouraged by the site guidelines you may not have read.

how is it irrelevant?
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