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Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years

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Re: Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years

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One year ago they launched their new Android version, which is godawful. Just read the reviews on the android store. Why Firefox, why?!

Firefox on Android is pretty fantastic. I feel like it's the one thing Mozilla did really right. As someone who has their laundry list of issues with regular Firefox, I have no serious complaint against their Android port.

Re: Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years

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Idk about 12 years but I know about last two years - many companies and workers had to switch to WFH. So that means using some sort of chat&video&audio software/website.

What did Firefox do to fix the compatibility e.g. with Teams? That should've been the highest priority. Instead, it took them years to get at least the GPOs right, autoupdate is the same story... so many things in corprote env were or still are PITA to set up in Firefox. So unfortunately no wonder it's Chrom(ium) for every single big company out there.

And don't get me wrong, I try to use exclusively Firefox whenver I can, but this is really frustrating to me as sysadmin.

Re: Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years

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I agree with this opinion piece. Firefox is a product strangely hostile to its core userbase. It's almost like they've been deliberately trying to sabotage themselves for years. I don't use it because I approve of all their stupid pigheaded UI choices, I use it because it has been the least bad option despite those choices. That might not go on for much longer, though.

> I don't use it because I approve of all their stupid pigheaded UI choices

I don't use Ff because I can't approve with exactly one of their UI choices: tab closing button on the wrong side. I am on Mac and this just messes with my muscle memory too much. (It used to be that the buttons where on the right side, which is to say the left side.)

However, other than that I see a lot of UI love in both the macOs and iOS Ff interfaces. One can feel the team works from their hearts.

I wish they would use their brains more. Painful irony.

EDIT: Anybody an idea why this got downvoted?

Re: Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years

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I agree with this opinion piece. Firefox is a product strangely hostile to its core userbase. It's almost like they've been deliberately trying to sabotage themselves for years. I don't use it because I approve of all their stupid pigheaded UI choices, I use it because it has been the least bad option despite those choices. That might not go on for much longer, though.

i use ffox on android because (for some reason) it's the only one I'm aware of that has ublock origin addon...( happy to be proven wrong :)

I also used to use reader mode once in a while...

Re: Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years

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After a year of using Firefox on Macbook, I've switched back to Chrome. The laptop was running really hot just from having a few tabs opened and Youtube playing in the background. It's been much better after I've made the switch to Chrome. For privacy reasons, I would rather stick to Firefox, but I feel like the performance is worse.

Yup, the performance of browsers are highly dependent on their host. Firefox performs best on Linux (and beats the other browsers for Linux too), so the default on my Linux machine is Firefox. For Windows, it's Chrome and for Mac is Safari. Wish there was some syncing utility between the three of them, as switching between them has always been a bit of a hassle.

I strongly disagree regarding Windows. I use Firefox on Windows as a primary browser and occasionally Chrome, - Firefox offers much better performance even having some extensions installed while Chrome is in vanilla state. The only issue with FF for me is exactly as the other commenter said - Mozilla likes to piss off its core userbase.

Re: Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years

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One year ago they launched their new Android version, which is godawful. Just read the reviews on the android store. Why Firefox, why?!

Completely agree. Poorer UI, removed extensions, and made it so text at old.reddit.com is microscopic despite all attempts. Iirc about:config access was removed too, but I can't remember for sure.

It was a great browser! I still install it once a month to see if they bring back the critical usability features. No dice yet.

Re: Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years

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My Firefox has become adware. Adware for Mozilla, but still: Every new tab I open, there is a “WE CARE FOR YOUR PRIVACY” message awaiting for me. Every restart, “LOOK AT HOW WE HAVE FEWER ADS, MORE PRIVACY”. And from time to time, if I don’t open a tab by myself, it will install Pocket and/or open two tabs at startup, one for the release notes and one for browsing, but still with the little mention “Firefox has been awarded the Firefox of the year by Firefox, thanks to how we don’t let the bad guys follow you with ads. Also please create an online profile so we upload all your passwords to the cloud. Because you’ll be safer.”

Honestly, Mozilla has lost the big picture. The whole point of it was to have fewer messages that occupy the mind and disrupt tasks, and Chrome does it better, as long as I’m logged in.

Re: Why Firefox has been in decline for 12 years

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Not a direct response to this piece, but the two things keeping me on Firefox these days, besides it being a decent browser generally, are container tabs and tree style tabs. They’re both very convenient for my workflow. I think all the browsers are pretty good, but those two features are great.
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