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‘Havana syndrome ’ and the mystery of the microwaves

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>high levels of radiation were recorded by family members of personnel in Guangzhou using commercially available equipment. "The needle went off the top of the available readings." But she says the State Department told its own employees that the measurements they had taken off their own back were classified. Some updates on it all.

Since this seems to be occurring only on US territories I think it may actually be some US installed device from some defence contractor that is "malfunctioning". Maybe some device to find listening devices or a device to block eavesdropping? More expensive wifi setups can aggressive suppress "rouge" access points. A stingray is probably also not very healthy to be around as it has to overpower any cell tower near by…

I agree. There are instances of this syndrome all over the world. The common denominator is the presence of US Government employees.

I call it as 'workplace injuries'. But the Government is more willing to blame 'adversaries' than admit any liability to millions of dollars in Workers' Compensation Claims.

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I've found it curious that the embassy in Havana is surrounded by a tall iron fence with thick iron studs every meter. Is it conceivable that sounds like cricket sounds can be reverberating off of this fence and accentuating the sound waves?

So what explains the syndrome in Washington DC, Australia, China, Austria, etc, etc, etc?

Down the track we'll find that it's due to Workplace Injuries.

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I've found it curious that the embassy in Havana is surrounded by a tall iron fence with thick iron studs every meter. Is it conceivable that sounds like cricket sounds can be reverberating off of this fence and accentuating the sound waves?

No, it is not.

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I've found it curious that the embassy in Havana is surrounded by a tall iron fence with thick iron studs every meter. Is it conceivable that sounds like cricket sounds can be reverberating off of this fence and accentuating the sound waves?

No, it is not.

Why not? Have you ever bounced sound off a tuning fork?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since this seems to be occurring only on US territories I think it may actually be some US installed device from some defence contractor that is "malfunctioning". Maybe some device to find listening devices or a device to block eavesdropping? More expensive wifi setups can aggressive suppress "rouge" access points. A stingray is probably also not very healthy to be around as it has to overpower any cell tower near by…

I agree. There are instances of this syndrome all over the world. The common denominator is the presence of US Government employees. I call it as 'workplace injuries'. But the Government is more willing to blame 'adversaries' than admit any liability to millions of dollars in Workers' Compensation Claims.

Nope. There other nations targeted too.

And besides that they already know which nation state is behind those microwave attacks. They just choose not to publish it, which is fine. Just don't spread silly allegations.

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Here's how it should be done by the pros: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz7CI-Cyk2s Only joking off course, but how portable could this sort of equipment actually be?

Dunno but here's a DIY real one consisting of the innards of a microwave oven and a metal dish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9NwiYeRapc

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No, it is not.

Why not? Have you ever bounced sound off a tuning fork?

That's not how acoustic resonance works, and if it did happen, it would be hard to not notice.

The whole "sonic weapon" thing is backwards reasoning where it was asssumed, because people heard things, that the sound was the cause, rather than a symptom.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? Have you ever bounced sound off a tuning fork?

That's not how acoustic resonance works, and if it did happen, it would be hard to not notice. The whole "sonic weapon" thing is backwards reasoning where it was asssumed, because people heard things, that the sound was the cause, rather than a symptom.

who says they're not noticing it? The article states in certain terms that people would hear "Buzzing", "grinding metal", "piercing squeals" - sounds, clearly audible.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not how acoustic resonance works, and if it did happen, it would be hard to not notice. The whole "sonic weapon" thing is backwards reasoning where it was asssumed, because people heard things, that the sound was the cause, rather than a symptom.

who says they're not noticing it? The article states in certain terms that people would hear "Buzzing", "grinding metal", "piercing squeals" - sounds, clearly audible.

They would notice it was coming from the fence.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. There are instances of this syndrome all over the world. The common denominator is the presence of US Government employees. I call it as 'workplace injuries'. But the Government is more willing to blame 'adversaries' than admit any liability to millions of dollars in Workers' Compensation Claims.

Nope. There other nations targeted too. And besides that they already know which nation state is behind those microwave attacks. They just choose not to publish it, which is fine. Just don't spread silly allegations.

they already know which nation state is behind those microwave attacks. They just choose not to publish it

That'd be a first. The US Administrations are always extremely fast to blame somebody. Usually before any investigations are complete.

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