Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Suez Canal blocked briefly as container ship runs aground

thenationalnews.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

11–19 of 19 posts

Re: Suez Canal blocked briefly as container ship runs aground

#11

Post by lindenstark »

kbutler wrote: post #10
lindenstark wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only around ~75 incidents reported this decade [0], so it's fairly uncommon. Definitely getting more attention now because of last time though. [0] (slightly outdated) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-24/suez-bloc...

75/decade == 1 every 7 weeks Sounds pretty common, or as the grandparent said, "tens of minor incidents that...didn't get reported on"

when put into perspective that is pretty frequent, ~0.02% chance per ship.

Re: Suez Canal blocked briefly as container ship runs aground

#12

Post by lavoiems »

lindenstark wrote: post #11
kbutler wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

75/decade == 1 every 7 weeks Sounds pretty common, or as the grandparent said, "tens of minor incidents that...didn't get reported on"

when put into perspective that is pretty frequent, ~0.02% chance per ship.

Put differently, we had an average of 7.5 incidents per year in the last decade.

Re: Suez Canal blocked briefly as container ship runs aground

#13

Post by lindenstark »

lavoiems wrote: post #12
lindenstark wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

when put into perspective that is pretty frequent, ~0.02% chance per ship.

Put differently, we had an average of 7.5 incidents per year in the last decade.

ya, I wonder what the risk is of getting stuck long term like earlier this year. According to the wikipedia page it looks like it has only happened a few times in history.

Re: Suez Canal blocked briefly as container ship runs aground

#14

Post by karaterobot »

zarq wrote: post #6

Have the worldwide trade delays from the blockage with the Ever Given been resolved?

The delays caused by that specific blockage may have been resolved, but overall shipping delays continue to rise, as they were even before Ever Given. One big driver for that is ports being closed in China due to workers getting sick with Delta, but also just general lack of manpower related to the quarantine.

Re: Suez Canal blocked briefly as container ship runs aground

#16

Post by gonational »

lindenstark wrote: post #13
lavoiems wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Put differently, we had an average of 7.5 incidents per year in the last decade.

ya, I wonder what the risk is of getting stuck long term like earlier this year. According to the wikipedia page it looks like it has only happened a few times in history.

Given that MV Ever Given drew a penis and balls outside the canal[1] before entering, I suspect there is a chance the jam was not an accident.

1. https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_605c2e44c5b67ad3871c9afe

Re: Suez Canal blocked briefly as container ship runs aground

#17

Post by asdff »

zarq wrote: post #6

Have the worldwide trade delays from the blockage with the Ever Given been resolved?

The delays are happening at every interface. The port of LA/LB is the busiest port in north America and has dozens and dozens of container ships anchored off the coast waiting to unload. Even if they unloaded the ships today they couldn't move the containers off the terminal holding facilities since freight rail and freight trucking is at capacity. This is why caltrans has been desperate to widen freeways leading to the port and link the 710 in Pasadena, and to expand the alameda freight rail corridor. Freeway widening doesn't help commute times any but it leads to more trucks per hour leaving the port due to the increased throughput, which is only going to get busier over the next century.

Re: Suez Canal blocked briefly as container ship runs aground

#18

Post by beaudin »

I have a mentor who was prominent in the ship holding space and as with technology, requirements as well as desire for cost savings (bigger ships) is taking place while the infrastructure (canal) has had minimal change. It’s the classic bottleneck/theory of constraints principle. Watching to see how the canal adapts/evolves.
Post reply on HN