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Re: Media trust hits new low

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Post by zepto »

llacb47 wrote: post #9
web-cowboy wrote: post #4

Anyone know of efforts to fix this space? Looking for a good excuse to quit my well paid corporate job and make a difference. News today is: - Infotainment - Tribal reinforcement - Irrelevant - Not actionable (and thus, depressing) - Making people think the world is getting worse - Immediate and not well thought out or nuanced In some ways it's their fault, but on the other hand, the modern reader won't pay for news.…

Your impression of "news today" lacks nuance and does not give me confidence in your ability to "make a difference" in the journalism industry.

Seems pretty accurate to me. What part did you disagree with?

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Post by fragileone »

web-cowboy wrote: post #4

Anyone know of efforts to fix this space? Looking for a good excuse to quit my well paid corporate job and make a difference. News today is: - Infotainment - Tribal reinforcement - Irrelevant - Not actionable (and thus, depressing) - Making people think the world is getting worse - Immediate and not well thought out or nuanced In some ways it's their fault, but on the other hand, the modern reader won't pay for news.…

Exploiting psychology on a mass scale like this means that the only solution will be government regulation.

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Post by ErikVandeWater »

web-cowboy wrote: post #4

Anyone know of efforts to fix this space? Looking for a good excuse to quit my well paid corporate job and make a difference. News today is: - Infotainment - Tribal reinforcement - Irrelevant - Not actionable (and thus, depressing) - Making people think the world is getting worse - Immediate and not well thought out or nuanced In some ways it's their fault, but on the other hand, the modern reader won't pay for news.…

I don't have an answer but these two YouTube channels look like what I hope the answer looks like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_42LVirfNI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXIxhF21qO4

Re: Media trust hits new low

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Post by i5heu »

zepto wrote: post #10

> How it works: Media outlets can continue to report reliable facts, but that won't turn the trend around on its own. What's needed is for trusted institutions to visibly embrace the news media. This is an extremely weird and disturbing conclusion. Orwellian even. What’s needed is for news organizations to not only report facts, but stop telling stories in ways that only benefit their own ideological systems. That’s…

It is not Orwellian.

It is a net of trust.

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Post by jari_mustonen »

web-cowboy wrote: post #4

Anyone know of efforts to fix this space? Looking for a good excuse to quit my well paid corporate job and make a difference. News today is: - Infotainment - Tribal reinforcement - Irrelevant - Not actionable (and thus, depressing) - Making people think the world is getting worse - Immediate and not well thought out or nuanced In some ways it's their fault, but on the other hand, the modern reader won't pay for news.…

I think is up to personal choices:

• Quit subscribing corporate media and subscribe to single reporters that are doing real reporting.

• Have zero tolerance for news that mislead you. ”Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

• Try to find reporters that are willing to give you the honest cotext even if it goes against what you expect and does not affirm your believes.

If enough people do this, those lying and misleading for profit will go out of business.

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Post by citrus1330 »

So their solution to the declining trust in government and media is to leverage the trust that employees still have in their CEOs. If they can convince CEOs to push their false narratives, then trust will evaporate there as well. How about instead: be more trustworthy.

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Post by chrisseaton »

jari_mustonen wrote: post #15
web-cowboy wrote: post #4

Anyone know of efforts to fix this space? Looking for a good excuse to quit my well paid corporate job and make a difference. News today is: - Infotainment - Tribal reinforcement - Irrelevant - Not actionable (and thus, depressing) - Making people think the world is getting worse - Immediate and not well thought out or nuanced In some ways it's their fault, but on the other hand, the modern reader won't pay for news.…

I think is up to personal choices: • Quit subscribing corporate media and subscribe to single reporters that are doing real reporting. • Have zero tolerance for news that mislead you. ”Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” • Try to find reporters that are willing to give you the honest cotext even if it goes against what you expect and does not affirm your believes. If enough people do this, those…

But single reporters seem even more aggressively partisan than corporate. They're often at least fairly explicit about this though - billing themselves as a journalist of the left or of the right or whatever spectrum you want - but there's still no balance.

Re: Media trust hits new low

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Post by zepto »

chrisseaton wrote: post #5

This article doesn't even remotely go where you think it would if you're going off the headline and your preconceptions. Ends up as > CEOs have long put themselves forward as the people able to upgrade America's physical infrastructure. Now it's time for them to use the trust they've built up to help rebuild our civic infrastructure. Who's trusting most CEOs? Being charitable, I guess people are trusting people who a…

Even if people do trust CEOs, there is no actionable request here.

There is no explanation given for why trust is diminishing or what CEOs are supposed to do to fix it.

As far as I can see the problem is that media really has always been ideologically biased, but the advent of social media and the ease of getting news online has made this obvious.

We can’t ‘fix’ the problem because it’s not broken. The only solution is a kind of upgrade that current media organizations simply aren’t built to deliver.

Re: Media trust hits new low

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Post by anovikov »

Why should MASS media be trusted? They exist to make money and they are free to use. How in the world they can be anything but a manipulation (which includes but not limited to, just simply a distraction)?

If you need real news, use Bloomberg, AP, Reuters... Yeah that's $1500 per month, and even more importantly, they are too boring to read for an average person, so they wouldn't be popular even if they were free. People who make actual decisions based on news, read them, for rest, there is this "newstainment" industry and it's no problem at all if it's not trustworthy.

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