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The iPhone 13 Does Not Have Satellite Internet, Band N53 and Globalstar

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Re: The iPhone 13 Does Not Have Satellite Internet, Band N53 and Globalstar

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Post by nynx »

detaro wrote: post #7
nynx wrote: post #3

It’s odd that this article is titled to state that the iphone 13 doesn’t have satellite internet, but the content states that it nevertheless will have some sort of satellite connectivity. Clickbait much?

It doesn't state that. "Apple is working on it longterm" doesn't mean "iPhone 13 will have".

Maybe I’m reading it wrong, but this article quotes directly from the bloomberg article about how the satellite service will be unreliable, needs a long time to connect, and will only be able to send short emergency messages.

Re: The iPhone 13 Does Not Have Satellite Internet, Band N53 and Globalstar

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Post by umeshunni »

nynx wrote: post #3

It’s odd that this article is titled to state that the iphone 13 doesn’t have satellite internet, but the content states that it nevertheless will have some sort of satellite connectivity. Clickbait much?

The facts are:

1. The iPhone 13 will have a new chip

2. The new chip is capable of additional bands licensed by Globalstar

3. Globalstar happens to be a satellite company.

Media thinks iPhone 13 can talk to satellites, when what it can really talk to is new 5G bands licensed by Globalstar.

Also see https://twitter.com/saschasegan/status/1432156621690576900

Re: The iPhone 13 Does Not Have Satellite Internet, Band N53 and Globalstar

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Post by hugs »

bob1029 wrote: post #4
umeshunni wrote: post #2

I find it representative of the sorry state of tech 'journalism' that anyone would think that a cell phone in 2021 is capable of satellite internet. A quick search will show anyone the size of even the smallest Starlink receiver and common sense dictates that current generation phones cannot have any meaningful signal strength connecting to even an LEO satellite.

I wonder what the theoretical minimum size would be for an antenna that can maintain a half-decent connection with the current generation of starlink/iridium/et.al. satellites.

Check out the Garmin inReach Mini or Rock Seven's RockBLOCK 9603. They're already relatively small -- I could imagine those circuits getting smooshed into a phone case. However, I doubt the connection would be anywhere close to half-decent. Would be useful for emergency text-messaging after a disaster, though.

Re: The iPhone 13 Does Not Have Satellite Internet, Band N53 and Globalstar

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Post by wmf »

umeshunni wrote: post #2

I find it representative of the sorry state of tech 'journalism' that anyone would think that a cell phone in 2021 is capable of satellite internet. A quick search will show anyone the size of even the smallest Starlink receiver and common sense dictates that current generation phones cannot have any meaningful signal strength connecting to even an LEO satellite.

The joke's on you; multiple startups are working on satellites that can communicate with unmodified cell phones. It will probably be limited to SMS but it's not literally impossible.

Re: The iPhone 13 Does Not Have Satellite Internet, Band N53 and Globalstar

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Post by xvf22 »

wmf wrote: post #16
umeshunni wrote: post #2

I find it representative of the sorry state of tech 'journalism' that anyone would think that a cell phone in 2021 is capable of satellite internet. A quick search will show anyone the size of even the smallest Starlink receiver and common sense dictates that current generation phones cannot have any meaningful signal strength connecting to even an LEO satellite.

The joke's on you; multiple startups are working on satellites that can communicate with unmodified cell phones. It will probably be limited to SMS but it's not literally impossible.

Plenty of startups works on impractical stuff. Not to pass judgement but the fact that startups are trying doesn't necessarily confirm validity. See wireless power.

Re: The iPhone 13 Does Not Have Satellite Internet, Band N53 and Globalstar

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Post by [deleted] »

xvf22 wrote: post #17
wmf wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The joke's on you; multiple startups are working on satellites that can communicate with unmodified cell phones. It will probably be limited to SMS but it's not literally impossible.

Plenty of startups works on impractical stuff. Not to pass judgement but the fact that startups are trying doesn't necessarily confirm validity. See wireless power.

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Re: The iPhone 13 Does Not Have Satellite Internet, Band N53 and Globalstar

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Post by frazbin »

imwillofficial wrote: post #15
nynx wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All smartphones already have GPS?

There will be no satellite internet on the iPhone 13.

pull-quote from the article:

> Apple has created a mechanism that will ask users to be outdoors and walk in a certain direction to help the iPhone connect to a satellite. Linking to a network also won’t always be instantaneous, with testing of the feature indicating that it could sometimes take up to one minute to work.

Re: The iPhone 13 Does Not Have Satellite Internet, Band N53 and Globalstar

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Post by tiernano »

nynx wrote: post #11
detaro wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't state that. "Apple is working on it longterm" doesn't mean "iPhone 13 will have".

Maybe I’m reading it wrong, but this article quotes directly from the bloomberg article about how the satellite service will be unreliable, needs a long time to connect, and will only be able to send short emergency messages.

Thats from bloomberg... do you really trust them with tech news?!
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