Is an “up to 3%” fine enough to make these companies relinquish their 30% Apple/Google tax?
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Apple and Google must allow other in-app payment systems, Korean law declares
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#12Is there a better source and the text of the law ? Payment systems are a proxy for the fee since there isn't an explicit publishing fee. It would be quite straightforward for both Apple and Google to charge a publishing fee, which may end up close to the current rent. The larger issue is that there aren't alternative app stores. Apple doesn't allow them at all, and Google severely restricts them at the technical and business level.
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#13When the EU does the same things will turn for real.
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#14Nowhere near as bad as the Apple vs Samsung.
IIRC, one guy in the jury had lost his business in a previous court fight with Samsung. How was that not discovered during the jury selection process??
Edit: this was not a popular comment..
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#15Finally. This is exactly how regulators should respond to the market abuse of these technology monopolies. If they wanted to head this off all they had to do was pay a reasonable amount of tax in the country where the revenue was generated and offer a reasonable (single percentage) fee for facilitating payments. They chose not to so they reap what they sow
What regulators should mostly do is provide rulings in 2 weeks. Monopoly lawsuits have been threatening for 5 years and are still in limbo, our entire West is in threadlock: Slow justice, slow regulators, slow administrations, fast market grabs…
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#16A possible outcome of this regulation: all Android and iOS payments get disabled in South Korea, paid apps become unavailable.
Such a move might embolden lawmakers in jurisdictions already considering similar laws.
Re: Apple and Google must allow other in-app payment systems, Korean law declares
#17Is there a better source and the text of the law ? Payment systems are a proxy for the fee since there isn't an explicit publishing fee. It would be quite straightforward for both Apple and Google to charge a publishing fee, which may end up close to the current rent. The larger issue is that there aren't alternative app stores. Apple doesn't allow them at all, and Google severely restricts them at the technical and…
A publishing fee would also be regressive compared to the payment tax. Right now, people don't pay until they are successful, at which point they may pay a LOT. But it keeps the app marketplace much more of a free marketplace.
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#18How long do we have to wait for all those disaster scenarios Apple and Google have been promising us to become true? I want to mark a date on my calendar.
At a glance, this law doesn't necessarily trigger any of the disaster scenarios. This doesn't mandate any changes to the security model and Apple could still adjust their terms to require a revenue share even if they aren't the ones executing the transaction—as a license fee for use of their software libraries.
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#19A possible outcome of this regulation: all Android and iOS payments get disabled in South Korea, paid apps become unavailable.
uh, so what?
I struggle to understand acting as if those things were some incredibly important stuff just like water, internet, computers,
or something that nobody would risk losing e.g via standing to fight against its vendor
Maybe losing those will result in creating new, more open and less vendor locking alternatives
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#20Is there a better source and the text of the law ? Payment systems are a proxy for the fee since there isn't an explicit publishing fee. It would be quite straightforward for both Apple and Google to charge a publishing fee, which may end up close to the current rent. The larger issue is that there aren't alternative app stores. Apple doesn't allow them at all, and Google severely restricts them at the technical and…
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