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“I don’t think there’s any argument that this is a worse console, at least for thermals and for cooling,” says Evans. Worst quote they coulda pulled. Literally sends the opposite message than the one its meant to convey. Unless im even worse at english than i thought.
“There’s no debate” as in “it’s so obvious, there’s no one on the other side debating that it is not true”
> with rear exhaust temperatures around 3 to 5 degrees higher Is that C or F? I'm going to assume Fahrenheit. Also, is that bad? In other words, did they measure the rest of the unit to see if it was hotter or cooler? Maybe they've directed more heat to the exhaust. Which is the whole point, after all.
My PS5 already overheats if I play a PS5 game on it with my cabinet door closed. It was never an issue with my PS4 Slim, PS3, or XBox 360. All in all I think it's the worst designed console I've ever had. The curvy top makes controllers slide off while they're charging so I had to put a drawer liner on top. The white plastic overhang seems delicate, I have no idea how I'd ever pack the thing up without breaking it. A…
My PS5 already overheats if I play a PS5 game on it with my cabinet door closed. It was never an issue with my PS4 Slim, PS3, or XBox 360. All in all I think it's the worst designed console I've ever had. The curvy top makes controllers slide off while they're charging so I had to put a drawer liner on top. The white plastic overhang seems delicate, I have no idea how I'd ever pack the thing up without breaking it. A…
My PS5 already overheats if I play a PS5 game on it with my cabinet door closed. It was never an issue with my PS4 Slim, PS3, or XBox 360. All in all I think it's the worst designed console I've ever had. The curvy top makes controllers slide off while they're charging so I had to put a drawer liner on top. The white plastic overhang seems delicate, I have no idea how I'd ever pack the thing up without breaking it. A…
My PS5 already overheats if I play a PS5 game on it with my cabinet door closed. It was never an issue with my PS4 Slim, PS3, or XBox 360. All in all I think it's the worst designed console I've ever had. The curvy top makes controllers slide off while they're charging so I had to put a drawer liner on top. The white plastic overhang seems delicate, I have no idea how I'd ever pack the thing up without breaking it. A…
The ps5 isn’t the only console that does not like to be enclosed in a cabinet with adequate airflow
It's not enclosed, the back is open and separated from the wall by about 5 inches.
Which is why it's all the more alarming that they've made the cooling system in the PS5 even worse.
> with rear exhaust temperatures around 3 to 5 degrees higher Is that C or F? I'm going to assume Fahrenheit. Also, is that bad? In other words, did they measure the rest of the unit to see if it was hotter or cooler? Maybe they've directed more heat to the exhaust. Which is the whole point, after all.
It's C. In terms of if it's bad? shrug . With a smaller heat sink, the chips are almost certainly going to be hotter (dunno how much.. at least 3-5 degrees, maybe up to 10?). Does that matter? Tech youtubers love to emphasize cooling - which is fair, I think it's important, but I also think it's overdone. From the end-user standpoint, the question is does this meaningfully increase the rate that their unit thermal th…
If the performance goes up or down, end users might not even notice, but if the fan is constantly kicking in and being too loud too often, more people will be concerned.
My PS5 already overheats if I play a PS5 game on it with my cabinet door closed. It was never an issue with my PS4 Slim, PS3, or XBox 360. All in all I think it's the worst designed console I've ever had. The curvy top makes controllers slide off while they're charging so I had to put a drawer liner on top. The white plastic overhang seems delicate, I have no idea how I'd ever pack the thing up without breaking it. A…
Yeah, this generation of consoles are much more power hungry than their predecessors (you can just see that in their designs). PS5 draws like ~220W from the wall, Series X draws like 200+. The 360 draws like ~120W.
So companies develop models that tell them how long things like the SOC (main chip with CPU, etc.) will last for a given temperature and use frequency, and whether or not they've got a 1-year design on their hands, or one that will last 20 years.
The model improves as you gain experience with manufacturing, customer issues, and get more testing than you could do before launch. Making the systems too beefy can be expensive, and saving pennies really matters when you're making millions of units.
So I imagine that the folks at Sony determined they could get away with a smaller heatsink and still have an acceptable fleet failure rate, probably a year or two out from the posted warranty.
My PS5 already overheats if I play a PS5 game on it with my cabinet door closed. It was never an issue with my PS4 Slim, PS3, or XBox 360. All in all I think it's the worst designed console I've ever had. The curvy top makes controllers slide off while they're charging so I had to put a drawer liner on top. The white plastic overhang seems delicate, I have no idea how I'd ever pack the thing up without breaking it. A…
Yeah, this generation of consoles are much more power hungry than their predecessors (you can just see that in their designs). PS5 draws like ~220W from the wall, Series X draws like 200+. The 360 draws like ~120W.