Do we now have to place our SSDs in raid configuration to get reliability? The problem is that I don't have enough slots.
Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs
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Re: Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs
#12Hey Ars, there is a global chip shortage right now. I doubt Samsung is doing this to screw over their customers, rather its either this or nothing. I know Ars knows this because they allude to in bottom of article. Click-baity.
"Dear customers: Due to the current chip shortage we see ourselves in the position to have to swap the controller with one of lesser value which has degraded write speeds, they are 22% slower. Please consider this when modifying your raid setup and treat them as different products. Our pricing has been reduced to reflect this change."
vs
Let's change the controller and hope nobody notices.
Re: Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs
#13Hey Ars, there is a global chip shortage right now. I doubt Samsung is doing this to screw over their customers, rather its either this or nothing. I know Ars knows this because they allude to in bottom of article. Click-baity.
So why are they not dropping the price ? Putting out notice ? Rebranding ?
Re: Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs
#14With the introduction of QLC consumer SSDs, with worse write endurance and life time but the same price as TLC, I took a look at used enterprise SSDs and never looked back.
The only issues is the connectors. You need 8x PCI-E lanes (4x might work) or a SAS connector that nearly no consumer board has.
Re: Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs
#15Hey Ars, there is a global chip shortage right now. I doubt Samsung is doing this to screw over their customers, rather its either this or nothing. I know Ars knows this because they allude to in bottom of article. Click-baity.
So why are they not dropping the price ? Putting out notice ? Rebranding ?
The 970 Evo Minus sounds a lot more to the point.
I have 2tb version bought last year, works great - but will opt for 980 Pro instead should I need more now.
(Have a 1tb version of that too, when it first came out. Works well but honestly there's no difference between the two even with pcie4).
Re: Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs
#16Does anyone have a list of SSD manufacturers that don't do this? Are SK Hynix and Intel still reliable?
Linus and Luke (of ltt) had a brief discussion about this on yesterday's WAN show [1], might be somewhat relevant. They mention intel and sk hynix as well.
Re: Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs
#17That's one way to deal with the counterfeiting problem -- just counterfeit your own devices! It's what the "sort by lowest price first" market demands, I guess.
Is Samsung the lowest price manufacturer? I've thought those are other manufacturers, and Samsung distinguishes itself through quality instead.
They do have good R&D and some pretty nice technology, that side of the business is solid, but their product divisions will frequently cut some pretty severe corners to get stuff out on time regardless of whether it's ready or not.
Re: Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs
#18So basically they're defrauding consumers..
Re: Samsung seemingly caught swapping components in its 970 Evo Plus SSDs
#19Does anyone have a list of SSD manufacturers that don't do this? Are SK Hynix and Intel still reliable?
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Is Samsung the lowest price manufacturer? I've thought those are other manufacturers, and Samsung distinguishes itself through quality instead.
They do have good R&D and some pretty nice technology, that side of the business is solid, but their product divisions will frequently cut some pretty severe corners to get stuff out on time regardless of whether it's ready or not.
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