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Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

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Re: Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

#11
There is already legislation in process that would do a hell of a lot more than this change including giving vendors the ability to sell entirely via their own store.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/11/bipartisan-bill-targets-appl...

If lawmakers are already going to give you 200% of what you originally asked for why on earth would you settle for half?

Re: Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

#12
This is a step in the right direction, but it's not reform, nor is the kind of transparency that would have remedied issues like the Hey email scandal. In any case, it's an interesting departure from the "courageous" Apple that unabashedly removed the headphone jack and dismissed concern over on-device scanning as 'screeching'.

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This is really big news. Waiting to see some more details. Apparently nothing changes if you decide to take in-app payments but you will be able to take payments outside App Store and avoid the 30% cut Apple takes.

Not exactly. Developers were free to take outside payments for apps. Developers were forbidden from linking or talking about this from within the app. On their on website was OK. This change lets developers tell their customer about outside payments from within the app. From what I gather, apps are still required to accept Apple Pay if they offer any type of in-app purchase. And apps that do not work without an outsi…

Based on the news release from Apple it looks like developers still aren't allowed to link to this from inside the app. It only allows for out of app communications (like email)?

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post #2

This is really big news. Waiting to see some more details. Apparently nothing changes if you decide to take in-app payments but you will be able to take payments outside App Store and avoid the 30% cut Apple takes.

Not exactly. Developers were free to take outside payments for apps. Developers were forbidden from linking or talking about this from within the app. On their on website was OK. This change lets developers tell their customer about outside payments from within the app. From what I gather, apps are still required to accept Apple Pay if they offer any type of in-app purchase. And apps that do not work without an outsi…

> And apps that do not work without an outside-app purchase are still rejected as well.

Apps such as Netflix & Spotify?

Re: Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like the slowest, most bloated way possible to design a calculator that runs on a phone.

Agreed. It seems like a great way to turn your web browser into an abstraction of an operating system.

but this is what apple originally intended, just phones weren't powerful enough at the time.

later firefoxOS did exactly that. and it worked well. its only weak part was the lack of apps in the market.

Re: Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

#18
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28323688

Linking this here from the other thread, because the above comment cites the actual court documents, which clear up a lot of confusion I'm seeing on this thread. Apple's concession only applies to communications outside of the app using contact information obtained outside of the app. (Which, yes, was somehow disallowed before.)

If your user signed up through the app? Tough luck.

This "concession" only removes a rule that Apple know it never could have defended in court.

Re: Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

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post #17
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. It seems like a great way to turn your web browser into an abstraction of an operating system.

but this is what apple originally intended, just phones weren't powerful enough at the time. later firefoxOS did exactly that. and it worked well. its only weak part was the lack of apps in the market.

Cries in Palm webOS.

I still miss my Palm Pre - shame HP killed Palm.

Re: Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not exactly. Developers were free to take outside payments for apps. Developers were forbidden from linking or talking about this from within the app. On their on website was OK. This change lets developers tell their customer about outside payments from within the app. From what I gather, apps are still required to accept Apple Pay if they offer any type of in-app purchase. And apps that do not work without an outsi…

> And apps that do not work without an outside-app purchase are still rejected as well. Apps such as Netflix & Spotify?

Sure, because the rules are the same for all. No wait, only for those that Apple does not necessarily want to have in its App Store.
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