At first I thought he would be ok. His original gripe with Youtube was the censorship of controversial guests. Either he or Spotify prevented most of the controversial videos from being imported into Spotify so I guess the problem remains. Is there a platform that allows any/all controversial guests?
Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#12Joe Rogan would be losing influence regardless if he was confined to Spotify, simply due to the competition. There is just so much more podcasting done today than there was two years ago, when he took the deal.
Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#13This seemed like the obvious trap he was going to fall into. I used to listen to him when he interviewed someone I was interested in. I even installed Spotify so I can access his podcast. In practice, because I don’t use Spotify for anything else, I have simply forgotten about him.
Would you fell into a trap like this for 100.000.000$?
Apparently he made $30M in the year before the deal.
If the deal lasts for more than 2 years, then he has made a serious error.
Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#14Pretty much haven't listened at all since his move to spotify. I don't blame him for selling out at all, but spotify is garbage for podcasts. If he went back to youtube I'd probably watch again
Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#15Just like Howard Stern (note, SiriusXM also owns Spotify). They traded a broader audience and greater influence for stability and gigantic paychecks. E.g., in Howard's case, even though his personal influence shrunk, his importance to Sirius/Spotify grew as a fraction of the subscriber base is dedicated to one talent and would otherwise unsubscribe. Howard's deal has been renewed a number of times now. I can't blame anyone involved.
Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would you fell into a trap like this for 100.000.000$?
Apparently he made $30M in the year before the deal. If the deal lasts for more than 2 years, then he has made a serious error.
There's no question that can't be solved with elementary school math, right?
Did he personally tell you that entering 2025 with a net worth of $175 rather than $195 million would present a serious problem for him? Does he not care more about other things in life?
Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would you fell into a trap like this for 100.000.000$?
Apparently he made $30M in the year before the deal. If the deal lasts for more than 2 years, then he has made a serious error.
Is Spotify the only source of revenue from his podcast? I don't listen to JRE, but this thread suggests he's still running third-party ads on the show. Presumably then he's still getting some portion of that $30M/year on top of what Spotify pays him.
> Spotify doesn’t play or include ads that interrupt the listening experience of Premium subscribers. However, some podcast creators may include third-party advertising, host-read endorsements, or sponsorship messages in their episodes.
https://community.spotify.com/t5/Other-Podcasts-Partners-etc...
Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#18Echochamber effect here I presume. Joe Rogan is doing just fine on Spotify. He can choose not to extend at the end of his contract, go back to YouTube and continue just where he left off.
Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#19Just like Howard Stern (note, SiriusXM also owns Spotify). They traded a broader audience and greater influence for stability and gigantic paychecks. E.g., in Howard's case, even though his personal influence shrunk, his importance to Sirius/Spotify grew as a fraction of the subscriber base is dedicated to one talent and would otherwise unsubscribe. Howard's deal has been renewed a number of times now. I can't blame…
Correction: SiriusXM owns Pandora, not Spotify.
https://investor.siriusxm.com/investor-overview/press-releas...
Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#20Just like Howard Stern (note, SiriusXM also owns Spotify). They traded a broader audience and greater influence for stability and gigantic paychecks. E.g., in Howard's case, even though his personal influence shrunk, his importance to Sirius/Spotify grew as a fraction of the subscriber base is dedicated to one talent and would otherwise unsubscribe. Howard's deal has been renewed a number of times now. I can't blame…
> SiriusXM also owns Spotify
Sirius XM (nasdaq:SIRI) and Spotify (nyse:SPOT) are two different companies.
Sirius XM bought pandora in 2019.