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FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine

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Re: FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine

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Post by giantg2 »

Saint_Genet wrote: post #5
eganist wrote: post #2

My biggest concern now is around seeing those who hedged their willingness to get the vaccine on its approval instead find a new reason not to get it. So with that in mind, I'm much more keen on seeing how employers will decide on vaccination mandates now that at least one vaccine is fully approved. Any news yet on whether any more employers are likely implementing mandates (if they haven't already this morning) base…

I guess the US military can now mandate it as they've said they will. Time to see how many of the people posting on social media that they'd rather take a dishonorable discharge will follow through.

It's more likely that people eligible for retirement will take it earlier than they originally planned. That's basically what we're seeing in return to office attrition.

Re: FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine

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Post by ceejayoz »

giantg2 wrote: post #8
eganist wrote: post #2

My biggest concern now is around seeing those who hedged their willingness to get the vaccine on its approval instead find a new reason not to get it. So with that in mind, I'm much more keen on seeing how employers will decide on vaccination mandates now that at least one vaccine is fully approved. Any news yet on whether any more employers are likely implementing mandates (if they haven't already this morning) base…

"...instead find a new reason not to get it." Or continue an existing reason: "Information is not yet available about potential long-term health outcomes."

Of course, we don't have much info on the long-term health outcomes of getting COVID, either.

It's like worrying about the long-term impact of breathing fire extinguisher powder while being engulfed by flames.

Re: FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine

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Post by cbg0 »

cmpb wrote: post #10
acdha wrote: post #6

I’m wondering what the odds are that people will pivot from “it’s experimental” to “it was rushed due to politics/greed”. I think a huge factor will be how many employers, colleges, etc. are now willing and legally able to require vaccination. It’s one thing to say you trust something you read on Facebook more than your doctor and quite another to walk away from a job because of it.

It's also possible that its approval will result in more people getting the vaccine due to those people now having an out from their initial reaction that it was rushed (but still sticking to their convictions up to now in order to avoid embarrassment).

More likely than not, they'll just move the goalposts farther and find a different excuse for not getting it.

Re: FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine

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Post by gpt5 »

giantg2 wrote: post #8
eganist wrote: post #2

My biggest concern now is around seeing those who hedged their willingness to get the vaccine on its approval instead find a new reason not to get it. So with that in mind, I'm much more keen on seeing how employers will decide on vaccination mandates now that at least one vaccine is fully approved. Any news yet on whether any more employers are likely implementing mandates (if they haven't already this morning) base…

"...instead find a new reason not to get it." Or continue an existing reason: "Information is not yet available about potential long-term health outcomes."

The same can be said about getting the real disease, except in that case, the “side effect” in the medium term have already been shown to be worse.

Re: FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine

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Post by ta2987 »

nanis wrote: post #3

After CDC stops updating stats on deaths/hospitalizations from Covid19 among those fully vaccinated against Covid19. As of August 9, net breakthrough deaths stood at 8/million and net breakthrough hospitalizations stood at 35/million, up 900% and 733%, respectively, since April 20. Current numbers: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/bre... Snapshots: https://archive.today/https://www.cdc.gov/vac…

What is this bullshit?

Re: FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine

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Post by bluGill »

acdha wrote: post #6

I’m wondering what the odds are that people will pivot from “it’s experimental” to “it was rushed due to politics/greed”. I think a huge factor will be how many employers, colleges, etc. are now willing and legally able to require vaccination. It’s one thing to say you trust something you read on Facebook more than your doctor and quite another to walk away from a job because of it.

I'm expecting most fortune 500 companies will now mandate all employees be vaccinated, along with most colleges.

Re: FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine

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Post by giantg2 »

cbg0 wrote: post #13
cmpb wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also possible that its approval will result in more people getting the vaccine due to those people now having an out from their initial reaction that it was rushed (but still sticking to their convictions up to now in order to avoid embarrassment).

More likely than not, they'll just move the goalposts farther and find a different excuse for not getting it.

Or continue an existing reason:

"Information is not yet available about potential long-term health outcomes."

Re: FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine

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Post by ceejayoz »

wingineer wrote: post #16

Does this have any effect on the exemption from liability for this drug or is that still in effect until 2024? I haven't seen any language on this.

Unrelated to approval status. We handle vaccine injury compensation via a special court and system funded by a tax on vaccine doses so manufacturers don't nope out and threaten the production of vaccines entirely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_Inj...

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