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A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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From what I understand the vaccine wasn't taken off the market by the FDA or science. It was taken off the market by the company producing it, due to pressure from lawsuits and bullshit concerns about risks.

I'm not antivax but if the company is sure its vaccine is safe, why should they fear lawsuits ?

They can be sure the vaccine is safe without being sure they would win in court.

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That's…not how the FDA, or science, or medicine works. Antivaxers have no power whatsoever.

From what I understand the vaccine wasn't taken off the market by the FDA or science. It was taken off the market by the company producing it, due to pressure from lawsuits and bullshit concerns about risks.

Antivax are people who don't want to take the vaccine. They're not against other people taking vaccines or the development of vaccines. You're likely misinformed.

Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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Have my TBE jabs. But just last week I had another course of penicillin to treat Lyme disease. Where i live, ticks are prevalent and this year seems to be particularly bad for just Lyme disease. I know four others who also have it, which seems higher than normal. A vaccine would be most welcome.

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Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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The article touches this briefly: I think it's horrible that the antivax movement successfully managed to push a working lyme vaccine off the market, based on concerns that turned out to be false. Every time you get a tick you should remember that you could be safe from lyme, but the antivax movement took that away from us.

It was a large law firm looking to make a buck who blew it out of proportion ...not anivaxxers.

Here's another good article from a more legitimate source.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870557/

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Have my TBE jabs. But just last week I had another course of penicillin to treat Lyme disease. Where i live, ticks are prevalent and this year seems to be particularly bad for just Lyme disease. I know four others who also have it, which seems higher than normal. A vaccine would be most welcome.

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I think they HAVE lime disease.

Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I understand the vaccine wasn't taken off the market by the FDA or science. It was taken off the market by the company producing it, due to pressure from lawsuits and bullshit concerns about risks.

I'm not antivax but if the company is sure its vaccine is safe, why should they fear lawsuits ?

Because the American Legal system is very imperfect.

Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I understand the vaccine wasn't taken off the market by the FDA or science. It was taken off the market by the company producing it, due to pressure from lawsuits and bullshit concerns about risks.

Antivax are people who don't want to take the vaccine. They're not against other people taking vaccines or the development of vaccines. You're likely misinformed.

Tell that to the antivaxers that attack vaccination sites and spread the propaganda.

Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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This one is a real weird forum. Class action against car manufacturer, Toyota, because of 200-400 injuries from airbags? GOOD! Class action against any medical product? VERY BAD! It’s like tainted blood transfusions, glyphosate, vioxx, fen-phen, thalidomide just never happened. I’m guessing the demographics is on the younger and still thinks they are made from steel.

They administered over 1 million doses in about a year. 10,000 doses was the sales projection after a misinformation campaign.

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This one is a real weird forum. Class action against car manufacturer, Toyota, because of 200-400 injuries from airbags? GOOD! Class action against any medical product? VERY BAD! It’s like tainted blood transfusions, glyphosate, vioxx, fen-phen, thalidomide just never happened. I’m guessing the demographics is on the younger and still thinks they are made from steel.

There were 1.4M doses administered:

> The FDA found only 59 such adverse events out of 1.4 million doses administered, and did not find direct scientific evidence that the Lyme vaccine had caused them. Still, the questions over possible unintended effects were enough to dampen enthusiasm, especially after 121 Lymerix recipients filed a class-action lawsuit against the vaccine’s manufacturer.

Reminds me of the entire clusterfuck around the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine, with the difference that politicians this time at least pushed for getting vaccinated simply to stop the pandemic.

Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I understand the vaccine wasn't taken off the market by the FDA or science. It was taken off the market by the company producing it, due to pressure from lawsuits and bullshit concerns about risks.

I'm not antivax but if the company is sure its vaccine is safe, why should they fear lawsuits ?

Because in the US legal system that uses laypeople as judges ("juries"), lawsuits tend to be won by those who put on the best play for the juries, not by those who have the better arguments on their side like in Continental Europe. And to make matters worse, sometimes juries go for obscenely excessive damages against companies to "make a point" - just look at the McDonald's coffee case.
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